The debate on a just future to end the Israeli occupation of Palestine has often pivoted around the question of a two-state or one-state solution. In a recent article for Foreign Affairs, four longtime proponents of the two-state solution make the case for why such an approach is no longer viable. Despite whatever high-minded ideals may have once motivated the search for a two-state solution, such dreams have become glaringly disconnected from the day-to-day reality of Palestinians living under occupation. Co-authors Nathan J. Brown and Shibley Telhami join The Marc Steiner Show to discuss why they are moving away from the two-state approach, and what principles would need to undergird a just and politically feasible solution to the occupation of Palestine.
Nathan J. Brown is Professor of Political Science and International Affairs at George Washington University and a Nonresident Senior Fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.
Shibley Telhami is the Anwar Sadat Professor for Peace and Development at the University of Maryland and a Nonresident Senior Fellow at the Brookings Institution.
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Israeli Jew perspective
Time for the palestinian exodus back to egypt
This will never work because Israel is a illegal country which should be given back to the Palestinian people.
One of the main issues I see in human history is the clear lack of consequences for certain perpetrators of some very heinous and evil crimes throughout history. If there are no consequences for several very powerful Israeli's and the laws and crimes perpetrated against the Palestinians then there will be no peace. And while I'm not Palestinian I can't see why they would accept enshrining Israeli claims on land that were the homes of Palestinian relative's lives for decades. No consequences for the criminals no peace, human history tells us that over and over again.
I appreciate your guests clear goal of resolving the issue in a serious manner but my above argument is one of the main reasons humanity cannot move forward. Humanity has to evolve and commit to involving everyone or lose our right to live as we do on this planet. We're running out of room, our planet is full and we're killing ourselves slowly whether we want to see it or not. No peace, no joy, increased greed and stress and hopelessness. It doesn't work.
It should be a one state solution. Palestine!
Land was stolen and should be returned.
Stop the Israeli land thieves.
Israel shouldn't be a country anymore.
Better off a prison. They walled themselves in anyway.
There will never be one state because one side doesn't see the other side as legitimate or human beings. They would rather waste money on rockets than infrastructure and a working society. They have no leadership. The repression comes from within.
The focus as I see has to be placed on corrupt politicians and governments of the powers of greed have become in Washington DC., plus corporations that has grown into an Inadverted tolertarism in the last 40 years.
Many poltiticans on all sides Democrats and Republicans are the problem for so many of these problems combining with lobbying powers of WallStreet and Banks.
Free Palestine!! May peace between grow with Israeli people and Palestinian people who has a moral conscientious in their hearts.
American and Israeli governments are the problem because they don't care.
Prayers for all people and may their hearts be changed by inclusiveness to all races and faith's. People are trying to bring togetherness of situation that has been brutal to allow a people to be to live in an unbearable situation since 1947. It is inhumane and a disgrace to live an an appartide state.
Futhermore, if I may add, we all are living in a perilous time.
We are all walking in seas of madness, all societies have been traumatized and affected and families and children are running for their lives, being murdered and displaced by wars for profits in many countries in our world.
Thank you , all for this conversation .
America wake up!!!
It cannot work because Palestinians will not agree to it. Their real goal is to destroy Israel and exterminate its people. They are actually not that different from the N..is.
As one of them said, "If Israel is the size of a postage stamp, that's already too much for us."
Their agreement to the two state solution was just a deception. Feisal Husseini, Arafat's close relative and assistant, called it "Trojan horse."
The rest — endless talk of "occupation," "oppression," "colonialism," "apartheid," their "indigenousness" — is just propaganda, justification for murdering. "Pretended self-defense" (Herzl).
The more one looks at their cause and everything they do, the more one realizes that it is all lies.
Benjamin Netanyahu has said that in Israel the deep state has always been in control.
Im no Expert But in my Opinion there will never be peace in the Middle East because the Occupation of Palestine is the Unrightable Wrong The two state Solution Is Not the Solution It Will be a Cruel Unequal Unfair Unjust Corrupt Apartheid I do think no matter what the Palestinians are in no win situation Hope I am dearly wrong
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There is, always has been and always will be one state and that is Palestine â¤ï¸ðŸ‡µðŸ‡¸â¤ï¸ðŸ‡µðŸ‡¸â¤ï¸
Only those who are holding an empathy glass have tasted the pain. This is why people are so sceptical about the Holocaust. The Jewish genocide of Palestine is both fascist and apartheid. Think about this. The British committed a genocide in Ireland, did the Irish go on to develop nuclear bombs or colonise? No is the answer to that. As long the Jews continue its actions in Palestine and Gaza
you have no credibility. You try to intimidate the world with you Anti Semitic poor me's, it doesn't wash. Nobody has respect for you.
They wasn’t intertwined until the belfore act made it that way.scandalous is an appropriate word for it..Israel and anyone who supports them should be ashame..
The only reason why a 2state solution won’t work with Israel ,is Israel.their corrupt narcissist at the core.keeping it 💯…we should be sick of Israel treachery..
One state with equal rights for all is the only remaining solution now. Israel was warned of this years ago, but refused to see the truth. As Iran pointed out a couple of years ago, give everyone in Israel the right to vote, and the state of Israel will be dissolved by a democratic vote, no meed to fire even one shot.
The Two-State Solution has always been a farce. It was there just to delay things so that Israel could gobble up all the land. Israelis want their lebensraum.
How anyone live with those Zionist murderer,rs
And you point the finger at Germany and the little fat German with a mustache hmm hmm?.. You are hypocrites you are child murderers you are still trying to manipulate the world you are war criminals.. All crimes against humanity have an end DATE Zionists🔥..
WE hate racists Zionists and hypocrites double standards EU WHO WEF👎🻅 Yea YES To Human Rights good blees Amnesty International God Blees Nelson Mandela🤲ðŸ»â¤ï¸â€ðŸ”¥. Free all the oppressed throughout the world.
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Free Palestine From EVIL zionist racist dictatorship Terror and Apartheid..🇵🇸🇿🇦🇵🇸🇿🇦🇵🇸🇿🇦🇸🇦🇸🇦🇮🇷🇮🇷✌ðŸ»âœŒðŸ»ðŸ‡·ðŸ‡ºðŸ‡·ðŸ‡º
So was Roger Waters speaking the truth about that part of the eart???
Maybe other countries should of just left them alone
Gentlemen I cannot help but suggest some very obvious solutions that many other intelligent and uncorrupted people have stated before me: Cut off the money spigot to Israel as leverage on ANY matter they won't oblige the U.S with. Cut off that same spigot to ALL politicians from both U.S parties and intercede in all bribery and bullying from the powerful Jewish lobby organizations within the U.S. Declare those same organizations "Foreign state actors" of unwanted influence and bar them. If not fully then give equal leverage to Arab or other entities to influence politics in the U.S government. Publicly call out the allegiance of these same lobby groups and their personnel into question along with all other funders of these groups and corrupt politicians as contrary to their oathed citizenship to the U.S. since they have openly declared Israel's interests above the U.S's. One highly doubts any chance of changing both the extremist Israeli government and it's larger citizenry at this point so the U.S can at least attempt these basic points in order to assert it's power as 'Banker and Lender' to Israel. As for the Israeli people, what an absolutely disgusting turn of events they have become the very thing they were once victims of and now perpetuate the same evil upon others and still bandy "anti-Semitism" slurs at anyone who questions their abhorrent behavior. The very use of the phrase "God said it was ours" beggars belief or to be taken seriously if they believe Invisible fictional entities with no proof of existence justify oppressive actions and ethnic cleansing. How on earth are they any better than the villainous foes they themselves have been victims to? If the entire state of Israel has become mostly fascist then even a one state solution of equality hardly stands any chance does it. Careful he who sows the wind.
But, but…. every Jewish group in the West demands open borders and multiculturalism? Why are they not embracing that for Israel? I don't get it!
It is puzzling how turkic chazaric jews (85%) are pushing out semitic Palestynians from their land! Who is antisemitic?
The palenstians are going to suffer the fate like native people have gone through North South America Australia etc.The reason is the super powers of the west aren't not in favour of palenstians rights for many reasons not enough space here to explain
Why does isreal even exist? If the UN wanted to give jewish people land why not give it Alaska or somewhere in the US??????????? big hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
It must be that now rhat there is more awareness and sympathy for the Palestinian plight, they feel brave enought ro stick their head above the parapet. Took them 30 years to muster the courage though. The whole show was wishy-washy.
Plenty of Palestinians and activists have been saying this for years. Whats the big deal about tihis 'groundbreaking' article? They could have written this article years ago if they had had any integrity. At least they're saying 8t so letz give them that.Why arent they actually demanding sanctions, when even they recognise this os one of the worst crimes against humanity – Apartheid. Its nor similar to Apartheid; IT IS APARTHEID, according to the definition of the Treaty of Rome. Have the guts to say it. I wouldnt call this incisive analysis. I'd call it wishy-washy
I agree. The settlers are victims of own success. At this point one state for all citizens with equal rights is where we will end up eventually. It would be physically impossible now to carve out 2 states. It would take a strong joint police force for the first few years to lock up extremist on both sides but I would start out with everyone free to choose and hope they chose non criminal activity. At this point US politicians still spouting 2 state solution is just playing to the bases as they have to know its no longer possible and they are really calling for status quo to remain.
I have family in refugee camps all over Palestine and people need to understand that Israel destroyed thousands of Palestinian villages, over 520 alone in 1947-1949. My aunt Huda Hawaja was killed in the Aida refugee camp down the street from where Jesus was born in Palestine. One of the Israeli soldiers responsible said on camera he was purifying the land and I have this uploaded to my channel so the world can see the truth.
One state solution won’t work. It will take generations to de-radicalize Palestinians. If it were one state tomorrow you’re basically inviting terrorism on Israelis. You guys underestimate the religious aspect of this. The want Islamic rulership. Two different peoples with different values.
Well thinking
Cuz Israël is a colonial and apartheid state
Sure thing Steiner. Rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Know any other religions with a synagogue? The Star of David is a fraud. It's the Star of Chiun, worships Saturn was forbidden for the real Hebrews to use at Amos 5:26 and was never called David until the middle ages when occultists (Kabbalists) adopted it. Herod the Great was from Edom, just like this fraudulent country. They are Shemite but not Hebrews.
Once member of the Quad ( house of Representatives) rises to top power in the US this will signal the end of American support to Israel. And what happens next to israel?.