Mueller and a Dangerous Moment in Human History – Jay and Curry – Everything Law and Order Blog

The threat of nuclear war; the climate crisis; Trump’s regime change plans for Iran and Venezuela; and confrontation with China are far more significant threats than election meddling – former Pres. Clinton advisor Bill Curry and Paul Jay join host Jacqueline Luqman

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48 thoughts on “Mueller and a Dangerous Moment in Human History – Jay and Curry”
  1. This shameless hackery is supposed to be real news?!? Sounds like a lullaby titled nothing to see here. I thought that this was a independent news outlet, I was mistaken goodbye…

  2. If there was no collusion then HOW could the report claim obstruction? If there was no crime then how could there be anything to obstruct?? This is 100% fake news.

  3. The BALLS of this hack to pretend people haven't being SCREAMING about Israeli, British and Saudi interference in US elections. There is VOLUMES of evidence.
    Real News pls dont have bald face liars on.

  4. The GOP and neocons probably objectively loath democracy a hell of a lot more than Putin, but are even more evil, because they are masters at pretending they favour democracy, while Putin is open about it. Fight against Putin's banks and oligarchs sure, but first focus more on getting rid of the neoconservative and neoliberal hegemony at home, otherwise you will never succeed in helping the Russian people.

  5. The Soviet Union was also NEVER an economic nor a nuclear threat. Because firstly their central planned command economy was grossly inefficient and corrupt (probably more corrupt than western capitalism), and secondly because they knew they would suffer more from a global nuclear environmental catastrophe. The nuclear deterrent has always been empty posturing. Any one country launching nukes against another would immediately become an international pariah, period. The USA had the sole exception joker card at the end of WW2, and was not condemned internationally by polite folks becasue of the universally agreed evil of the fascist-imperial Axis. The true deterrent has, and will always be, collective world unity and collective security — which is only growing stronger and stronger the more people wake up to the lunacy of neocon ideology and propaganda.

  6. By focusing for two years on the now officially debunked "Russiagate" conspiracy theories Democrats and hysterical journalists like Rachel Maddow have handed Trump a huge gift for his 2020 re-election campaign, validating his charge of "fake news". They have also wasted time and energy which could have been instead devoted to the many existential issues facing us. But endless Trump bashing both sells (the media love Trump) and supposedly grants moral high ground to fake "journalists", corrupt politicians like Schiff et. al., and pundits like Brennan.

  7. I do not think we should support Israel militarily or any other nations military. We should only provide aid to other countries in the form of humanitarian relief. Does that make me anti semetic? Why is no one being accused of being anti Palestinian? lol? Screw the Zionists and the new world order. That does not make me a racist, it makes me a sovereign human being that wants no religious overlord and separation of church and state. If your pro Israel and making pro Israel policy based on Zionist agendas….that is a breach of separation of church and state is it not? My point is the US backing of Israel is a breach of separation of church and state….. or no? Legally yes or no? How is the US support of Israel not related to the Zionist agenda? I mean its directly tied to the christian and catholic populations want to support Israel is it not?

  8. Interesting discourse but never alluded to the particular crimes of the Clinton's, financially and in foreign policy. But they are correct, without economic justice internally, America will slide into something very dangerouus domestically. We have the same problems here in the UK with neoliberalism, but maybe on a lesser scale.

  9. Ignoring Jewish supremacism, a culture of "choseness" its manifestation as the Zionist project Israel, the massive over-representation of Jewish people and voices in the centres of power; banking, media, tech and politics and the subsequent privilege this endows upon Jews only feeds the Racist right confirming their belief in all of the above. This is compounded by the contrasting ease of discussion over "white privilege".

  10. Bill Curry, another Clinton leftover makes a vain attempt at pandering bringing up the wholly-unrelated but serious topic of anti-Semitism wrt billionaires Mercer and Adelson is a clear giveaway at playing both sides of the fence. Why does TRNN get such hacks for debates. Take a page out of DemocracyNow! instead such as the informed debate between Glen Greenwald & David Cay Jonston:

    https://youtu.be/6yLx_wDq1Wo

  11. The big first problem is how do we make the Democratic Party understand that they need Bernie Sanders and stop them from undermining Bernie. If they subvert again, it will effectively be the end of the Party for decades.

  12. Well the US can no longer hide its behaviour behind “the good ol boys here to help out” YOU’RE GOVERNMENT IS GUILTY OF WAR CRIMES IN YOUR NAME…. now just piss off.

  13. Waiting till he is out to impeach means he isn't impeached. You ignore the law, do whatever you like, and nothing happens. Then you get out of office, dance with ellen degenerate, and being a war criminal is fine.

  14. I would like him to give one example of Putin showing that he loaves democracy. I have followed him for years, speeches, quotes, articles. I haven't seen it.

  15. You idiot!
    Vladimir Putin is the last bastion of hope for freedom, international law and a multipolar, peaceful world !
    You know, the opposite of what the lawless West does.

  16. Cambridge Analytica is UK enterprise … has nothing with Russians 😉
    So UK has meddled in US election 10x more than Russia ever was 😉

  17. Democracy in the USA is dead you shouldn’t be talking about it. Russia has been made a scapegoat for everything happening around the world. The bad actor is the USA sanctioning everyone they hate and fighting endless wars. USA’s CIA are the terrorist entity working with terrorists around the world to destabilize other countries.

  18. This is for those that do not understand you can not have obstruction if there is no crime – Collusion did not happen so there for no crime was made. The firing of Comey ( A Corrupt Agent ) was fired for not doing his job. The number one mistake he made was being judge, jury and punisher. No FBI agent is allowed to say who is guilty or not guilty and say there would be no judge that would look into what Hillary did or did not do.. Comey is corrupt and will be indicted for his actions and work.. There are good people in the FBI that want to see justice done. The democrat party will destroy their own party with their corruption, lies and dilution that they should be in power. Now there is also corruption on the republican side as well – we all see it – those that fight against the American people that only want the wealth for them and laws that work for them. Same as for the democrats. I believe if they work for the American people America would thrive and so would the rest of the world. In almost every country corruption is in all Government – If you do not see it you are blind – all Government work together in one form or another. The United Nations only work for the goals of the few who want to Rule this World – One World Government. Do not forget The United Nations owns America's Internet they ( which was given to them by Obama ) now have a tool to keep all your info in one place and spy on you every move. The real truth should come out about every false events that took place all over the world starting with all wars that was created fr the ruling class to become wealthy ad in power. secret societies working on their behalf should be punished to the fullest punishment the law gives. Hang them all for treason on humanity.

  19. Fake News, smoke and mirrors. The democrats need jail time – every one of them, as well as MSM for pushing this anti Trump, anti USA theme. TF I live in Australia.

  20. Its all about rich drug cartells from day one funding broke presidents with innocent kids fighting for them at their command. When a society gets to this point in the USA politics the Mafia returns.Next will be the commander in cheif war hero supposed That takes the white house. Eisenhour era .Then classified information becomes just that,,,CLASSIFED By then you should have your stairway to heaven built to 1/infinity distance into outer space. Digging holes in the first planet that can provide minerals and food for exisistance. If earth is still alive and rotating.

  21. Anyone else noticing how the bar has been lowered just a little bit ? I mean, in our general society and the incivility of one toward another? I believe the trump has loosed the unconscious resentments in our collective mind. If leadership is pathologically dishonest then everything downstream is tainted by leaderships effluvia.

  22. Curry's objection to Paul Jay's citation of Saban, Adelson and the rest of the pro-Israel big donor class, and of Netanyahu's numerous interventions in U.S. internal politics, is disconcerting. He introduces the subject of antisemitism as a means of deflecting discussion of a valid and pertinent point. It's not anti-Semitic to take note of Israel's across the board influence in American politics. The Israel Lobby wields real power in Congress and state houses. Currently, 27 states (backed by a recent Congressional resolution) have anti-BDS laws and/or practices. That didn't come about as a spontaneous act of conscience in those constituencies.
    In recent decades, a groveling performance before the annual AIPAC convention has become a requirement if one is to be regarded as an acceptable candidate for high political office. Numerous accounts by those involved illustrate the effectiveness of the pro-Israel vetting system for American office-seekers, down to the municipal level. City council candidates are interviewed by local Zionist groups to determine whether the person in question holds a proper reverence for the Jewish State. Effusive pledges of allegiance to Israel are a matter of common courtesy in political circles for both major parties. Israel receives extravagant subventions from Congress. Successive U.S. administrations veto resolutions and stamp on committees at the U.N. if criticism of Israel is seen as forthcoming. Corporate media favor Israel's voices and Israel's cause in a heavily weighted manner. American police are trained in Israel or according to Israel's prescription.
    I could go on and on, but I don't want to leave the false impression that Israel simply controls American policy. The truth is more nuanced, as Paul Jay frequently points out. There's a confluence of interests at work in this empire-within-an-empire. But when Curry says that the alleged Russian interference in the 2016 election represents a unique intrusion into the system by an antidemocratic foreign power, Jay is perfectly right to point out the very prominent role played by pro-Israel oligarchs and institutional forces in American political life. If we can't discuss this issue because of the history of dreadful persecution inflicted on Jews, we'll be giving in to two forms of racism- Apartheid in Israel, and antisemitism itself, which feeds on such prohibitions.

  23. If she had the likes of this hack and clown Bill Curry as an advisor, no wonder Hillary Clinton could never win an election. Then again, the stench of corruption and hell's sulphur on Hillary Clinton would put anyone off except for the likes of idiots like Bill Curry.

  24. Unsubscribing I am. The Real News Network is more and more starting to sound like a semi-propaganda outlet rather than an outlet that dishes out "real news". It is starting to seem like their strategy is to affirm people's criticisms of certain aspects of American policies to draw them in, but then to keep them within the "general web" of Western/American propaganda and not allowing them to venture too far away from the general consensus by maintaining certain seemingly benign propaganda points, e.g. anti-Trump propaganda. Could this be the reason Aaron Mate left? I have always considered him to be the most facts-based, truthful and most level-headed of all the The Real News Network bunch.

  25. Bill Curry, What you don't know about Capitalist Christian-Orthodox Russia would fill a large library. Your ignorance is appalling.

  26. Obama, HRC used State spying apparatus to spy on a political rival. The malfeasance at top of DoJ and FBI during 2015 to 2018 is incredible.
    FISA courts are so powerful yet tbey allow Yrump to be spied on without even a hearing? On the basis of Steeles easily dismissed document?
    Liberals and civil rights people should be angry about that. Holder called himself 'Obama's wingman', remember that? Yet they're calling Barr all sorts of names? Lynch met Bill on the tarmac, does any journalists care about context or facts? Clinton kicked everybody out of WH and posts across government when he started his administration. Yet Trump is dictatorial? Obama surveiled and jailed journalists so he could then jail the whistle blower they'd been in contact with.
    This whole Russian farce was in play long before the election. That should shake everybody. That the mainstream media continue to move goalposts and push obstruction whilst justifying the last 3 years reporting is the saddest thing I've ever witnessed. No hyperbole.

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