The REAL Reason Cops Wont Train BJJ

1. A healthy ego is good for confidence and keeping you and other safe. An unhealthy ego is dangerous and counterproductive. Maybe it's not BJJ for you, but PLEASE train (especially if you're a law enforcement officer)

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2. I have noticed that much of the covid politics at least in our country has turned the lay-man against authorities also cops.

3. Joseph James Deangelo was a cop Dennis raider was a wannabe cop

4. bjj sells parlor tricks that only work on compliant partners in an artificial environment .
   Go talk with war veterans who survived extreme close quarter combat situations and you will learn what works and what fails. Modern army combatives which are based on mm/bjj got soldiers killed in irak
   and afganistan.

5. Some Officers will downright try to delegitimize jiujitsu and training because of an unintact ego. Unfortunately there is a lot of scowl at training today but it will change. I hope.

6. Any cop or civilian who has dealt with sociopathic criminals knows that
   any type of sport fighting training will get you killed in real life.
   look at the most common bjj inuries, retinal detachment , rotator cuff, groin muscle ,acl tear
   and concussion by knee to head, and these are training accidents what do you think happens
   when it is planned? also in bjj you are more likely to be injured by a begginer than by an advanced student.
   You never know who you are dealing with.
   brasilian jujitsu does not work against bigger opponents , tournaments have weight , gender and age divisions.
   helio gracie lost to both kimura and santana because they were bigger than him.

7. In my opinion, BJJ is a bad martial art for cops. I think Krav Maga makes more sense. Firstly, BJJ would require both combatants to be unarmed and roughly the same size. For at least one combatant to be armed (cop), the cop has to be immaculately trained and have some luck for the suspect not to grab the weapon and use it on the cop or any bystanders who might be shot. Secondly, let’s not discount bodily contact with open wounds or whatever which can run the risk of infections. We live in the real world where police have to deal with all sorts of characters (some might be heavily drugged/mental illness with super human strength). I know we all want less fatalities but I can imagine for a police officer who is just doing his job vs a suspect fighting for his freedom, it’s better to manage the distance and not get into a close combat situation. Let’s be practical.

8. I tell officers that you don't know what you don't know. It's hard to believe in the magic of jiu jitsu unless you've felt the little dude work you with 2 years of BJJ and you've been on for 5 years just to find out how vulnerable you are.

   1. You accept it and your ego dies. You learn jiu jitsu.

   2. You deny it keep your ego and YOU could die.

   Make your choice.

9. Nice video

10. It's called ego most of these cops are bullies with huge egos. In BJJ you have to be humble and a willing student because you will be HUMBLED by everyone who has more skill than you as you get tapped and submitted as a white belt. Most cops do not like engaging civilians but are trigger happy fucks that have no discipline.

11. Leave your ego at the door.

12. Christ pole smoker, want a pink house robe instead of looking like a a bald Barney.

13. They tend to get an ego check on a weekly basis in my dojo.
    Cop or not , I treat everyone the same.

14. EGO is the only reason I can think of. Maybe health, But if health is an issue . They need to find another job.

15. I have a friend who is training to be a police officer who goes to the same krav maga place as me

16. Honestly guys. The only reason i dont train is because im lazy :/

17. Great training, just don't be lulled into a false sense of security with it! Cross fit training is necessary for cops in addition to Jiu jitsu or hiit training for endurance.

18. One thing that might disuade anyone from training in BJJ is the fact that those training often pick up nasty fungal infections from contact with both opponents as well as the mats they’re training on.

19. Jiu jitsu is a reality check you quickly see who you can put in the grave and who can put you in the grave.

20. I have several Police officer friends that practice BJJ, they are real good at it.

21. Many BJJ techniques are difficult to perform while wearing a bulky gun belt.

22. Very wise my brother…!

23. Lift weights, take BJJ for 6 months to a year, and work on your
    boxing/kicks. All the BJJ purist fanboys need to realize, that "BJJ"
    consists of only 4 real submission moves: naked choke, armbar, kimura
    (includes americana), and leg lock (with slight derivative)–all the
    fancy sounding garbage (i.e., torreando) is unnecessary for real
    warriors. Top it off, take the gi away, and there goes all the sleeve
    and collar control that BJJ and Judo are based on. You're left with
    slippery wrestling from your back for weak guys who lack strength to
    stay on top. Try rubber guard on the street and you won't survive. If
    you're smart, take what you can from BJJ and move on, because the guys
    that stay for years are cringe and a cult-like butt sex atmosphere
    develops.

24. Amazing video! I have been training in Krav Maga for almost 6 years, I have my brown belt currently working to get my black. I just recently started training in Brazilian jiu-jitsu for the last couple months and my ego does not stop me from being humble and analyzing all the movements and constantly asking questions every class. I even ask the dumb question sometimes if I see another student who looks confused because I remember being that confused student when I first started. Keep up the great training and videos guys!😎

25. When the badge has no more authority then you have to depend solely on what you bring. I saw it in the Marine Corps too. Beta males who enjoy authority given to them they otherwise would not enjoy through their own attributes or untrained alpha males. My experience as a warfighter is alpha males tend to get in line and become the bad ass they are on the inside by testing their metal. Beta males in those positions are dangerous. I am also a bjj black belt with an extensive catch wrestling back ground. I am fully aware of being humbled to this day. I love it. Always more to learn. I really enjoy being around highly trained dangerous men who have been humbled and proved

26. Mike, the same is true for action shooting competitions like IDPA and USPSA. There are some officers who compete in these competitions, but they are the rare cops who are gun guys and gals. Most cops won't compete. More than a few come once, start the competition thinking that they are awesome, get humbled by some 50-year-old computer programmer who is also a USPSA master, and never come back.

27. Mike, the same is true for action shooting competitions like IDPA and USPSA. There are some officers who compete in these competitions, but they are the rare cops who are gun guys and gals. Most cops won't compete. More than a few come once, start the competition thinking that they are awesome, get humbled by some 50-year-old computer programmer who is also a USPSA master, and never come back.

28. Anyone who trains in a MARTIAL ART will become that just by practice.

29. Remembering a time when 2 State Trooper's were basically provoking me into a fight for no reason… It's been 6 years and here I am gritting my teeth dreaming I'll meet them on the mat some day.

30. Speak for yourself! 4 black belts in my unit. The rest kickboxing and karate, besides shooting😊

31. Not everyone likes the continual close contact with other men needed to achieve a level of compatance in BJJ.

32. If police academies had BJJ instructors to teach a law enforcement modification of the art, more cops will train in BJJ. I'm pretty sure the LA County Sheriff dept teach basic Jiu jitsu (ground fighting) along with variety of departments. With MMA being a thing, I'm sure cops have training in basic defense techniques

33. I think of the undercover agent South Narc, who trained unarmed against 2 guys with knives! He said a lot of guys won't train like that because it's not an ego boost.

34. I think weapon based training would be better for Cops

35. I did 4 years active duty USMC and 29 years as a cop. At the age of 50 we were mandated to attend the BJJ training. I cautioned the instructor and administrators that throwing out of shape 40,50, even 60 yr old cops on the mats to contort their bodies around once every two months for 8 hours is a recipe for serious injury. Guess who got seriously injured after that? Me. A life threatening dissected carotid artery in a headlock escape maneuver between me and a giant 57 yr old cop who fell on me with my head locked and twisted. After being misdiagnosed by Workers Comp flunkies I admitted myself to the hospital where I was told 3 times in one night by 3 doctors that I might die any minute. 3 days in ICU, 3 cerebral angiograms, weeks more in the neuro ward. Years of battling workers comp and my own agency and I finally was forced to retire. And, I was in better shape than most of the 30 year old guys. So the training is valuable but it cant be done safely when its done every so often and without proper conditioning. So if a cop finds himself in a life threatening encounter, donuts or no donuts, use whatever weapon you need to go home to your kids, despite what the cop haters will say. Blue lives matter.

36. One thing that kind of always irks me when watching videos like this is when I see black belts that don’t even know how to tie their belt properly, but then a lower belt standing next to them with it properly tied. Jiu Jitsu comes from Japan, and in Japan they take it so serious that you can’t even participate in class unless your Obi is properly tied. Sometimes you can’t even step on the mat. It shows a certain discipline, and shows that a person is taking it serious. In one hand the belt simply holds the Gi closed, but in another hand it is a symbol of what you know, what you’ve learned, how much you’re willing to go through, and how serious you take the art. If a person can make it all the way to 1st Dan and not know how to tie their belt there is something wrong on many levels, and many people will attack me for this saying the man has earned it and done his time and what not, but it is a serious thing. Especially in Japan where Jiu Jitsu came from. I’m sure he earned his black, and I’m sure he’s good. I wouldn’t want to fight the guy. He looks dangerous. He may just be that guy that says, “it’s going to come untied a lot so ill tie it however is quicker.” Or, “If I train properly the belt means nothing anyways.” but again it’s a symbol and should be taken seriously. Even and especially for white belts. Call me superficial, or shallow, or what ever you will, but I have great respect for where Jiu Jitsu comes from. It should be trained and done right. Jiu Jitsu has been torn to pieces and we have forgotten what it truly is because of this watered down sport crap that gets people hurt or killed in real life. Jiu Jitsu is about a lot of little things that make up perfect technique, and if that is accomplished amazing results come from it. If we know to hold our elbow in while doing a Kimura, but can’t do something so simple as tie our belt properly, something is wrong. Ok, my rant is done lol.

37. Is 67 too old to start training in jujitsu?

38. I would think bjj would be perfect for police. It should be required training.

39. Funny how it's the cops who always get people on the ground when they arrest a resisting suspect.

40. I taught a seminar on ground grappling for a group of Bruce Lee JKD type guys who mostly didn't know anything about ground grappling. Some of them said they don't go down on the ground ever.

41. Leave your ego at the door.

42. Injuries have kept me off the mats for some time, it's a valid excuse. Not wanting to wear gis is another one. I hate the gi, I don't know how the gi hasn't been phased out yet. No gi is much closer to a real life situation. I train and only do no gi, it's more realistic and a lot more fun. Finances is a bullshit excuse though, they have the money in their budget.

    I've trained with a lot of cops. In most classes I trained at from a couple different schools, I always had at least 1 police officer in every class.

43. I'm suspicious of anyone training, for anything in special, fancy, clothes.

44. I agree as a former cop who had 10 years of training before I ever became a cop, there is no way that the academy training would ever be adequate for real-life physical confrontations.

45. The real reason why anyone in law enforcement shouldn't train in BJJ is because BJJ is ground-oriented martial arts system. It's wrestling and largely depends on strength to get people down. If I was a cop, I wouldn't train in this shit because it means CONTACT with the person in a way that emphasizes grappling in a controlled manner. You don't have time for that shit on the street especially with all your EDC you got on and a live weapon. Fuck this. BJJ is for big guys that got strength to impose their will on people ON THE GROUND. Stay the fuck off the ground if you can and take the perp out as soon as you can. That's what everyday cops need. Not this rolling around sport bullshit. Train in something more realistic that doesn't require so much athleticism so you can do your job.

46. I used to work with my state's prison system. I liked to get with the defensive tactics instructors to find out what they were teaching and what they had found had worked. I was having this conversation one day with a DT guy and the subject of training came up. He said that the biggest single weakness of DT programs is getting COs to train beyond the mandatory time required for their certification. And this was a program that didn't require rolling with people like at a BJJ dojo, but just the general cooperative work that you see in most programs. We didn't get into the specifics of why COs were reluctant to put in the time and effort, but the DT guy left me with the impression that he just thought the guys were lazy.

47. because they would rather shoot unarmed people wielding butter knives. lmao a cop actually use "skill" at "restraining" a person? F off with that. Cops are trash that would rather shoot first at anything that moves. Most untrained "professional" imaginable. Their punishment for murder is paid leave pending an investigation. 99% of police have little man syndrome with a healthy dose of racism and cowardice.

48. What's sucks for a lot of us in the rural areas is that there are no BJJ schools within 50 miles of where we live. And of the ones closest to where we live, they are ridiculously priced. Granted we have Tae Kwon Do at the local community center, which is better than nothing. There is a Japanese Jiu Jistsu school about 35 miles away which I'm going to give a try.

    I've been a big powerlifter for years and have always relied on my size and strength for the past 16 years of my career. I do agree that it's time to get something more than just strength.

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