A Cop’s Take on Logan Paul and REAL Suicide Prevention

1. Yeah, I work at a homeless shelter. At one point, we had so many altercations, health scares, and suicidal ideations (among other things) that we were calling 911 daily. I started seeing a lot of the same cops over and over and was always impressed by their patience and ability to speak with compassion to each client. Of course, there are cops out there who act poorly, but I never saw any of them while on the job. Maybe I got lucky, but I don't think so. I think patient, compassionate cops are more the norm than the exception.

2. As a person with bipolar disorder with psychotic features, I know all too well the thoughts and voices telling you that everyone would be better off without you. It’s just not true, however, and meds and therapy help you see that it isn’t true.

   Also, don’t be afraid to go to the psychiatric hospital, and the staff aren’t “CIA agents out to get you.”

3. I didn’t know that I could call 911 for suicidal plans at the beginning.

4. I’m a suicide attempt survivor and I wouldn’t want someone to just let it happen and film my body to me about four years ago.

5. This comment is a statement of belief, of opinion, not intent.
   It's often not "the world will be better without me in it". It's, "15 minutes after I'm gone, no one will remember or care". Or, "I'm tired of life always sucking, I'm tired of always failing, I'm tired of never getting ahead, I'm tired of every minute being a fight just to keep my head above water."
   Much of what you cite as reasons suicide is bad, would be mitigated simply by giving suicide legal protections and legal systems, instead of turning those people into criminals. We can murder babies up until and even beyond birth. We can euthanize pets, the infirm, the elderly and criminals. But we have no say over ending our own lives. Suicide isn't selfish. Demanding that someone else live, imposing your will upon them, locking them up until they agree to comply with your requirements for them, is selfish.

6. This video may be two years old…but it is INFINITE in it's message. Thank you Mike.

7. I've been suicidal myself, and the thought of how whoever found me after would feel is what has stopped me. That trauma is something nobody should ever have to go through. To anyone who is reading this, and has been suicidal, just know that there are people who care about you, and things do get better

8. I'm 12 and won't watch that crap

9. Hi Mike. I'm a new subscriber to your channel as well as a couple others who served our community's as an officer. I personally am not in law enforcement, but do have close family members who are. I have my own issues in life which has gotten worst lately. I'm trying to not sound like a complete fool here, but your video here kinda brought a few things to light for me. I'm still struggling day to day with an issue like this video. so please keep making them my friend. Really enjoy your channel. – Jon –

10. Mike, glad you brought this up! Suicide is the wrong answer to any of life’s problems. I am a pastor now with one of my degrees being Grief Counseling. People never stop to think about the impact this act will have on others. Very rarely is this considered. We do not want to consider those who we leave behind.

    I am also talking from a good deal of experience in the subject. I have thought about this a great deal. I have Leukemia and it is getting worse each year. It is painful and there are times when I feel I cannot go on. Just being real here. However, I do not want to leave this earth before God calls me home. I cannot imagine standing before Him giving an account of my life and why I ended it.

    Please, keep up the good work you are doing. Messages like this are important and I believe vital!

11. This hit close to home for me. I wake up every day fighting those thoughts. I have had to live with these thoughts since I was young. It's sad with how many people just look at you and treat you like your just trying to get attention. As someone who has had to live with this attention is the last thing I am looking for. At times it just helps to have someone to talk to but it's hard to find someone that's not going to look down at you for going thru it.

12. Mike, good video again. You mentioned only two things for suicide. There is a third, chronic physical pain. I've had sever neuropathy for sometime now and know one day this is how I will go….HOWEVER, it will be assisted and everyone will know. I deal with the chronic pain depression in cycles. I can always beat that back with a sound stick. I do whole heartily agree with you on everything you said. I know what has saved med is my Yorkies, mans best friend. This little dog is so attuned to humans it's uncanny and I recommend them to anyone dealing with depression.

13. I just think people need to back off other peoples business. If somebody wants to commit suicide thats there there business! Not yours or anybody elses thats selfish self rightious self centered an nobodys business. Mind your own business. Who i want to bring home what i want to eat what i want to drink smoke how i treat my body is my business. And yes if wanted to commit suicide i will and you or nobody else can stop me. Obviously if i die by my own hands i dont care what someone else thinks. I dont care. Maybe i want them to feel pain omg

14. Didn't have the experience as a first responder but I did happen to find a very good friend of mine hanging from a rope… Thankfully he was still alive and conscious (although barely) it was still quite the scare

15. Do NOT always keep secrets: 1.) Not when people's lives are at stake. 2.) Not when children's safety is at stake. "Can you keep a secret?" "I can keep secrets. I'm GREAT at keeping secrets, but I will not keep a secret if someone might get hurt."
    That's been my response to that question for a long time. I was an elementary / high school / prison librarian for many years. When I hit on that response I was stunned at how many times kids (and teens, teachers, officers, prisoners, parents, etc.) would give me a long look then always go ahead. Most of the time trivia.
    That long look ….
    Twice things got done that urgently needed doing. Each time others had known and done NOTHING.
    "I'm thinking about suicide."
    Go to the phone book. Find suicide prevention hotlines. Give the phone number to your friend. Sit down with your friend while they dial the number and sit with your arm around them while they call. Or SOMETHING.

    PLEASE use this response "I can keep secrets. I'm GREAT at keeping secrets, but I will not keep a secret if a child's safety is at risk or someone else might get hurt." Or your own variation.

16. Intentions-good execution (no pun intended) terrible……

17. Jesus..What a brilliant
    video, teaching people to
    be actively empathetic!!!!
    Great message, thx!

18. Mike thank you for talking about this topic, for caring about people, and genuinely wanting to help others. Prevention and awareness are really important in ending the stigma around suicide. It's not guaranteed to save lives but as someone who has been suicidal in the past, it's helpful to hear that strangers can care so deeply about my life. This video helped me to put everything into perspective.

19. Sanctity of life.

20. Had no idea who this guy is until this.

21. wh0 the fuck is jake and I0gan

22. Thank you Mike. Speaking as someone who has lost two loved ones to suicide, one being my sister recently, and battling clinical depression and suicidal thoughts myself for decades you are spot on. Spot on as far as reasons why (others or myself or both are better with me dead) and also how to help someone (being WITH THEM) SO IMPORTANT. Thank you. Also maybe you can mention medication. some may not ever get better without it. I wouldn't cause I tried for 25+yrs. its made a WORLD of difference with me. Thanks again Mike. Your a good man.

23. Here is another thing for people to keep in mind even in despair there is still hope that hope is in yourself and others.

24. I am not surprised cops are suicidal, I mean when you see the ugly reality of of humanity up close and personal it takes a lot to cope with it, that's why when people make the comment that a cop acts like a child with a badge I just think maybe that's the only way they know of coping with the ugly nature of the criminal world, all the suicides, drug dealers, anti cop crap, the fact anyone could kill you just for what your wearing and yet your job is to protect them, man i could not take it, more power to those who can.

25. How do you maintain composure when you discuss these situations with the surviving family? I couldn't be a doctor or a cop for this reason. If I had to deliver that kind of news, I'd be visibly miserable, probably crying and it would take effort to clearly state what I was there to clearly state.

26. I think you're missing #3 which is people so hurt they want to lash out and hurt their love ones and others by killing themselves and finding some sort of release or comfort in hurting others in one last great fuck you to everyone else. Killing yourself is a selfish act but also one of the bravest things a human being can do.

27. as someone who has struggled with suicide, who are you to say, that suicide doesn't solve the individuals problem. as someone who values facts, as I do, I want to know how you can say that. again, from my perspective, all that you're encouraging people to do is pity others.. upon completing your video, you say "i hope this ect…" maybe you should actually talk to people who are in this mindset, and see how they feel about your approach.

28. Mike, my name is Joe. I work for the Wyoming state Department of Corrections and my department gave us the opportunity to attend a training on suicide intervention. ASIST ( Applied Suicide Intervention Skills Training) opened my eyes as a CO and member of my community. I don't know if your department can use this or not but I think it's definitely worth looking into!

29. Mr. Mike you're exactly correct. The one thing people need to understand is this the weakest way out we can body we can mind leaves years of Anguish for the family. it's pretty much that simple

30. A good song too listen to is by bush letting the cables sleep listen to the words it might help someone who might be going through something

31. Here's the problem with the stigma, though:
    If you seek help, here in America, with mental issues. Anxiety, depression, thoughts of suicide… Whatever… Then, employers may see that, or request that, because some jobs have to meet certain government regulated criteria. For instance, you cannot be seeking help with depression, and be a Foster Parent. However, ideally, there is no one that's better suited to give young teenagers guidance through their own issues, than someone who's already been through it and is making progress and healing. Still, if you have a medical history of mental illness or treatment, then your judgements will always be questioned, and it will keep a person out of a profession where they can really make a difference in other peoples lives.

32. I have full respect for how you handled this video

33. Thank you.

34. Thank you . . . I'm in the very earliest stages of getting help for anxiety and, well, a death wish (there's probably some depression thrown in there). It means a lot to see someone talking about this in a straightforward, human way.

35. this was a great video… god bless you mike

36. Only cowards consider suicide, honesty instead of facing life you just want to end it

37. It's a shame that "Suicide" buries a video away from people, despite it being part of "Suicide Prevention".

38. i think one of the most important things to do if you try to help a suicidal person are 1. dont drag them down with your own bad memories(because they could already be at a stage where they just take everything bad they hear as another reason to kill themselfes) 2. talk to them not like they are suicidal or crazy but if they just are a good friend of yours 3. give them a thing to do. something that is not to exhausting so that they could drag them down with it but something that is fun for them. usualy collecting stuff like old books or some kind of cards. and especialy if they find something, talk with them about their new collection or new favorite game or whatever they found. they are usualy acting a bit like a young child at that moment but as soon as they are starting to act like a child they are on their way to get better. im talking here just from my expierience. but in general the things they need is a good friend, a thing to do and most importantly fun. that can cure them if you do it right and long enough.

39. A big problem is, when I'm suicidal, I do not want help. If anything, I want somebody to convince me to go through with it.

40. Nice vid, Mike. I have a theory that cop suicides would be related to the frustration of catching the same bad guys all the time. Because they were just released and not put into prison.

41. Logan Paul is just in for the money. Even if it means doing a drive by on a school.

42. Thank you

43. If I had one thing to say about talking about suicide is that to remember that these people that kill themselves are usually people who have serious problems of some sort. They're not perfect people and we shouldn't just ignore the flaws because we don't want to look bad speaking ill of the dead. But, every time we inadvertently lionize those that commit suicide, we run the risk of encouraging suicide contagion where people who were depressed, but didn't think that suicide was an option now do think that it's an option and go through with it.

    This is a great video. I've known 3 or 4 people that completed their attempt. The other one was a single car crash in an area where he wasn't expected to be, so you do the math on that. We'll never know for sure as there was no note that I know of.

    What I will say is that people who are still trying things are usually going to be OK, but you still have to make sure to keep an eye on them and to know if they're running out of things to try rather than suicide and to make sure that they're receiving care from a qualified professional.

    The difference between somebody who does and somebody who doesn't attempt can be a simple twist of fate something just happens that interrupts the process long enough for them to lose their nerve. But, we should aim to be that thing that interrupts the process whenever we suspect that it might be a problem.

44. Make no mistake. Cops DO NOT CARE about civilians who are suicidal or who have completed suicide. They respond only because it's their job.

45. Gawd… how touchy-feely.
    Kinda gay actually.

46. Some day society will understand mental illness, I hope.

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