@Cops&Cons live with our Legal Expert Dan Talks About the Sean Bickings and Patrick Lyoya Cases

1. did he shoot with intent to kill

2. https://youtu.be/chtckoc2foE

3. The other thing to consider which needs to be
   said is when the Officer learned that the license
   plate did not match the vehicle, he put himself
   in grave danger by getting out of his vehicle to
   approach Lyola's vehicle for reason he didn't
   know if these were deadly armed criminals on
   the run wanted by law enforcement considered
   to be armed and extremely dangerous who
   were drug dealers or fleeing the scene of a bank
   robbery that might be armed to the teeth with
   automatic weapons as there were two of them
   in that vehicle from the get go who could of both
   suddenly jumped out and opened fire on the
   Officer in a hail of bullets killing him instantly.

   So from the get go the officer placed himself in
   an extremely dangerous situation just by getting
   out of his vehicle. What he should of done was
   immediately call for backup, and if he did, he
   should of remained in his vehicle until backup
   arrived which then could of transitioned to a Felony Stop that tactically is far different than
   what he ended up doing.

   He could of instantly been shot and killed by the
   occupant of the vehicle with automatic weapon
   fire as he was approaching Lyola and/or Lyola
   could of had a hand gun in his waist ban and
   instantly pulled it and shot the Officer as he was
   approaching him without his gun drawn.

   The Officer placed himself in grave danger from
   the beginning just by getting out of his vehicle
   knowing there was at least one additional
   occupant in Lyola's vehicle who could of been
   armed.

   The Officer had no idea of the extraordinary level
   of danger he put himself in just by getting out of
   his vehicle under these sucipious circumstances
   that could of quickly turned lethal for the Officer. What if both Lyola and the occupant of the
   vehicle were armed, and as he approached Lyola
   both of them opened fire on him which could of
   included automatic weapon fire.

   So the bottom line is this Officer used extremely
   poor judgment from the get go in addition to
   him not being in adequate physical condition
   for grappling with Lyola or anyone else for
   that matter. He could of easily been killed
   under different circumstances that he never
   considered. If it was me I would of immediately
   called for backup and remained in my vehicle
   until back up arrived to execute a Felony Stop
   with weapons drawn and shielded behind the
   doors of their police vehicles.

4. Police are the #1 hated enemy on planet earth not because 🐖they catch criminals, it's because police make everyone appear to be criminals while removing food from tables and extorting hard-earned incomes from the innocent with the justification that it's up to the judge to sort things out! (Police volcanically destroy lives and families for profit VOID OF CONSEQUENCE and it is dead wrong!)
   The fact is Qualified Immunity was Satan's greatest gift to protect the police from personal lawsuits and is the primary reason our nation has such volcanic justifiable hate for the sovereign police! It's beyond the time the police are licensed rather than certified and carry their own liability insurance saving taxpayers 23 billion dollars annually from valid lawsuits against bad cops!
   – Michael B. Saari for Michigan State Senate 2022

5. I admire people who do what they want to do even in the face of it being rejected by all who see it. You keep forcing legal technicality talk on people who just want to see boots crack skulls of people they feel are deserving. Or inversely on the other side, it's all about in-equality rage bait. What absolutely nobody wants, is the detailed facts and well thought out position. Your audience doesn't exist. You're simply alienating people who watch this for either reason.

6. The Sean Bickers case. Officers have zero responsibility to save someone and they informed Sean not to swim in the water. They did everything they could.

7. 1. Those officers did their job IAW local procedures.
   2. Who can swim 20m, grab and swim back one armed with a +220 lbs weight that is struggling and pulling you down?

8. The police officer new it was dangerous when he expected the job he chose to do. He was on floor officer had him pined down.

9. Hi I'm new the officer was sitting on top of him had him pined down and shot him in back of head. Don't make excuses he was scared you could see that on video. He should also not kill him just for runing .

10. What kind of distance did he shoot from?

11. Don't body cams act as a officers defense in these situations

12. The officer wasn’t trained well. He pulled out a taser and closed distance just to use it. When the officer was on the suspect back he could have disengaged and told him to “drop the taser or you will be shot” “don’t make me shoot you” instead of just shooting him in the back.

    Some people are fine with officers not being tactical and intelligent with how they speak with citizens

13. I think it's felony evasion what they run from the police

14. I missed the stream so I have a lot to say. Sorry.
    I like the new set 👍
    I believe that police officers need to learn actual hand to hand combat and self defense so their first instinct isn't to pull their weapons. That will definitely help cut down on shooting.
    The cops should not have gone into the water. He could have easily drowned one of them. Jumping in the water was his choice. When I worked on the Ambulance we were told not to attempt try to rescue the victim but to wait til they stopped struggling and recover their bodies and do ALS on them to bring them back. But it was left up to us to know our own abilities in each situation. A drowning person will always try to push you down to get the high ground. It's just self preservation.

15. This is long but I'm sick of race always being called in question. So I'm gonna vent alittle. Okay.
    Z for C because of YT censors.
    In reality raze has nothing to do with anything. These people are looking for razist intent where there never is any. NONE of these cop shootings have ever come back with proof that the cop was actually razist. In all these shootings the suspects were NOT following lawful orders givin to them. Fighting, running or going for a weapon or suspected weapon by the officers COULD GET YOU SHOT.
    I don't care what color his skin is I'm concerned with his actions. White black Hispanic or whatever it never matters. 99.0% of Americans and cops are not racist. There is NOT an epidemic of razism in America. That is made up by the fake news Corporate media and Demoncrat politicians and activists. Do these idiots really think that if a white guy was fighting with this cop and trying to take his taser or weapon from him he wouldn't have done the exact same thing. If you don't agree maybe you're the real razist. He would have done the same thing and they know it. Color of skin had nothing to do with this. But it had everything to do with the officer being charged. Stop looking at a persons race and look at their conduct and behavior. Damn people it's so simple. When stopped by an office do as you're told. If you have a complaint go to the police station and FILE a complaint. Try to get the cop disciplined or fired. Then the outcome will not be you laying dead somewhere from resisting and fighting cops. If you have warrants and do another crime and try to run. Well, you should be committing all these crimes. Self responsibility is dead with this generation. It's always someone else fault not their terrible decisions and behavior. Shame on their parents for not teaching them to respect authority. I'm a disabled Firefighter/EMT/911 operator and I've seen a lot of this first hand. These cops are out there because they care. Not to shoot black people that being irresponsibly but intentionally reported in the news and on socialist media sites.
    I'm done. Thanks

16. DA was wrong.

17. 100 % Blue👮‍♂️👮🏻‍♀️👮
    Thankless job with alot of rights taken away from officers and abuse of officers they face everyday.
    So many people giving their advice on how to be an officer with no idea of the traning and law they have to abid by.

18. We don’t execute drunk drivers. Let it go. Call back up. Seriously! A bullet to the back of the head for an agitated drunk driver. Second degree murder is completely appropriate.

19. Lifeguards are taught, not to try going in water, to save someone without a floatation devise.

    Oh my goodness. Can't handle the truth.

    Keep up with the pity. Train police for everything, so no one else has any responsibility. A little girl wouldn't be baiting them in either. Which would be a consideration. They've been baited in, on a regularity of late. They are getting set up, to be killed.

20. Super chat, Proof money talks.

21. When the perpetrator flees or resists being detained, they should loose their rights at that moment. The criminals are fighting dirty and the cops have to follow a bunch of rules. History has proven the criminals are getting released with little to no penalty now days. The LEO's across the country need to go on strike. The judges and lawyers need to start being held accountable for the crimes committed, after criminals are released. They want the revolving door because their pockets are getting fat!

22. Why did the cop escalate the situation to the point of pulling his taser? The guy was running away. That's a misdemeanor. The officer had his vehicle. It's a murder in my mind. Death penalty for the murdering coward.

23. Well…looks like Policy Activity just posted it too!

24. Here is the link to Cammack Police. Not a shooting, just wondered if you had thoughts.
    https://youtu.be/M9PI-yL5Pvk

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