Discussing directions, real-world effects of online extremism with Andrew Marantz – TCDPOD – Everything Law and Order Blog

In this week’s bonus podcast, we sit down with author Andrew Marantz to talk about the current state of online discourse, real-world effects of social media manipulation, and his new book “Antisocial: Online Extremists, Techno-Utopians, and the Hijacking of the American Conversation.” https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/562022/antisocial-by-andrew-marantz/

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46 thoughts on “Discussing directions, real-world effects of online extremism with Andrew Marantz – TCDPOD”
  1. Can someone link to me places where he describes actual interactions or ideas. He’s not getting into the nitty-gritty but is instead talking about broad theories s as and rules and some perspectives to observe his and other prominent people’s actions as.

  2. The internet has been around forever. I believe it was called the Advanced Research Projects Agency Network aka ARPANET (closed 1990) and now it is the Internet. Where did the ARPANET get the funding?
    A: DARPA = Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency.

    That is the propaganda machine.

    You’re welcome.

  3. My partner is a political consultant, and deals with related stuff all the time. Since I began seeing him I've learned more than I ever thought there was to learn, and you just showed me I've barely scratched the surface. Thank you for bringing the fact that we're being manipulated into the conversation!

  4. Great to hear you speak Andrew, you will never write and publish anything of significance or profound thought that people will reflect on decades from now, you are the equivalent of the guy selling popcorn at a baseball game. xD

  5. Oh yes! "The upper echelons of white supremacist groups." Hahaha Those nebulous white supremacists. You have no agency they will the brainwash you! Soon you will believe there are only 2 genders. Soon you will think You should raise your own children. Soon you will think people should be free. Run run quickly to your nearest CNN outlet.

  6. Why is reddit getting off easy on this, and 8Chan is being villainised? If this guy really did spend 3 years looking through these systems, he should know that reddit takes no steps to stop you from creating an account with a temporary email address (which can then be confirmed and get around their anti-spam) so when they "nuked" the "Nazis" all of those users just came straight back with new accounts and nothing changed.

    8Chan is just like reddit. Plenty of radicalisation happens on reddit, plenty of radicalisation happens on Facebook, plenty of radicalisation happens on twitter. Isis, anonymous, the lords army, swords of christ, they all have official accounts on all of these platforms that are used to radicalise.

    Stop making out that this is a problem with far away platforms the mainstream has never heard of. Heck, stop pretending this is a social media issue. Freedom comes with negatives, there will always be people who are prejudice, there will always be people who are hateful, there will always be anarchists, there will always be the mentally ill. It just is. And the more you push those people out of the mainstream, the more they join together, radicalise and escalate.

    You can't fix human nature by making a law. You have to deal with the underlying societal issues, and that's hard and takes a lot of time and resources to do right. There's no quick fix solutions.

  7. Remember the arson fires that happened the night the Grand Jury decided not to indict Darren Wilson? Brown's step father said "burn this bitch down." He said it when he got the news from the Grand Jury. No one charged him with anything. I believe if you tell people to burn a city down or to hurt another group of people you should be prosecuted. We need to apply it across he board, regardless of race, religion, etc.

  8. Very disturbed at how this podcast is turning so leftist. Stop attempting to allude that surprising speech is either necessary or appropriate. Go back to crime. Disliked.

  9. I have watched this video for more than eight minutes and this soyboy didn't say who are the supposed extremists. He is so tricky that I bet he is a libtard who calls a nazi anyone who disagrees with him.

  10. There are inherent problems with determining who is "vulnerable" unless you're using age as a measure. It sounds like between all these platform's people find what their looking for. I've never heard of some of them- I am not the least curious about or interested in hate speech.

  11. EDIT: quick question, when you find someone upset online and threatening (non specifically) to pick up arms etc etc. WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN IF YOU JUST DELETE THAT PERSONS ACCOUNT??

    You don't realize it but you actually have something in common with this hypothetical person… You both think the time for talking is over. You delete the account, what does he do???

    So a writer form the NYT is upset about propaganda and diss information?

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