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“Fleeing Felon” Video Ends in Officer Charged. I’ll break it down from four different angles and explain what the “Fleeing Felon Rule” is, and what it is not…..

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35 thoughts on ““Fleeing Felon” Video Ends in Officer Charged”
  1. As a proud citizen of a 'Blue City and State,' I would not classify Oklahoma City as a Blue City. Also, this is a prime example of mental health care in the U.S. Bullets are much cheaper than first class medical/mental care.

  2. I remember the cops shooting at a guy for running away from him over an open container ticket. He only shot one time and missed, but he was shooting straight at a school house. It could have been bad

  3. Most places, he would have been shot immediately when he even raised his knife. Strange to me that the officer didn't even try to engage verbally with the man in any way to deescalate the situation.

  4. We're going to need a police force to protect us from the police force I saw that old man do nothing wrong except be crazy and tired of the police I think every one of these cops should be fired and the shooters put in prison for murder

  5. And then the most disgusting part is handcuffing the dead man how stupid is that every single cup on this scene needs to be fired they're stupid and they're cowards and we don't need police officers like that on the streets

  6. Wrong on so many points. Officer lowers the weapon to avoid friendly fire, raises it back up again. Also, this suspect committed an attempted murder of an officer, what will he do to someone else if he gets away?

  7. I'm sure someone else has said this, but the bwc goes back 30 seconds from the time it's activated, but for some reason there's no audio for that 30 seconds

  8. He lowered his weapon because he would have been shooting towards the police car and the other policeman is Earth policeman not because the man posed no threat.

  9. If I was part of the jury I would convict the 2nd cop from the video evidence shown. End of story.

  10. First shooter stopped firing because he apparently twisted his ankle or something. Also, he was at a bad angle and could have hit pepper-spray cop if he kept firing from that position. However. Once a person charges at someone (cop or not) with a deadly weapon their life should be forfeit. The fact that he tried to "flee" once he started getting shot is irrelevant. You say he was fleeing, I say he was looking for an easier target. This one shouldn't be up for debate IMHO. Imagine if he found an innocent bystander at the end of that parking lot and ended up stabbing them to death in order to try and steal their car to get away. Would that innocent person's life be the cop's fault because they stopped firing once the crazed knife-wielding attacker turned his back on them? Some cops make a lot of bad calls, and use force too often, but this isn't one of those cases IMHO. That guy wasn't headed to church after surviving the first 3 shots, he was going to find someone that wouldn't put up a fight.

  11. Cop not guilty of anything, it all happened in an instant, not always possible for a person to process, mentally, the change from a person who was charging, to one who now is running, in a split second.

  12. A questionable shoot for sure, but there’s not enough there to get a conviction. The victim already demonstrated he was willing to charge an armed officer with a knife, upon fleeing, he could’ve encountered an unarmed civilian, and having already demonstrated a willingness to attack, officer could be argued to have been justified shooting to protect the public. I’m not saying it’s right, but that’s the way I think it will play out.

  13. I'm betting the first shooter lowered his gun because of what he saw in his line of sight. It was the store and who could be inside, but mostly, the other officer who ran around the other side of his vehicle.

  14. Didn't even have to watch. First officer arrives on scene and barks orders. Same order over and over and over. Second officer arrives and it is instant escalation. No discussion with the first officer just straight jump in the middle of an incident. The guys with the knife. He has a coat. That is going to be where they shoot the tazer. Damn it didn't work. Knife guy "advances". That's all we need guys. Kill him.

  15. I am saddened to see the homeless man getting shot. Clearly, he did not understand that if he didn’t drop the knife he was likely to be shot by the cops. Did he not understand what “Drop The Knife!” means or not understand the consequences of not obeying the command? I don’t know. Given the tools they had to work with, the cops did the best they could. Perhaps cops should learn to say “Drop the weapon!” in multiple languages.

  16. Wow! This is the difficult one. That last 3 shots. There is always 1/2 second delay from when one decide to shoot till one presses the trigger. However, based on the video, the first officer did lower his weapon to a low ready after the first 3 shots which indicate that the threats is over. The second officer is the issue.

  17. The the bullshit ya we shot him multiple times he's bleeding out. Let's not try assisting knowing he's unarmed and no threeat.. let's handcuff a deseased person

  18. The fleeing guy had proven himself to be a danger to the community. The first shooter stopped firing because he saw his partner running into his line of fire. Sure, when you slow it way down it doesn’t appear that way but we’re talking fractions of a second. The second shooter couldn’t let the felon get away because he didn’t appear to even be wounded at that time. Letting him get away would pose a high risk to the community.

    So I don’t see the issue here. The cops had to make snap decisions and decided the guy was dangerous. We can’t judge that decision by going into slow motion to analyze every small detail. From attack until down is only about 1 to 1.5 seconds. The distance the second cop shot was only about 10 yards, an easy shot for anyone reasonably trained including myself. There was no one in his line of fire either between him and the felon or in front of the felon.

    All in all I say the cops did what had to be done and I appreciate what they did. It’s not an easy thing to take a life. I hope both cops received counseling. But no way they should face charges, period.

  19. Wait…so do you just let him run away???? Are you going to go tackle a man holding a knife that he just swung at another cop????

  20. There is a town/city (pretty sure it was "Lancaster"), but I don't remember the state, that has changed their policy so that police don't have to take "lethal" shots but can shoot in the pelvic and leg areas when appropriate (usually would be knife/pipe situations). They actually had to change their policy because the current policy did not allow for attempted wounding or attempted disabling a threat.

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