Jam Master Jay’s alleged killers face trial; Murdaugh’s conviction upheld – TCD Sidebar

1. THANK YOU JUDGE

2. They should have received a life sentence for jmj twenty years is not enough

3. I don't think you can blame the parents for the child's actions… So what if a child stole a car & hit & killed people it's the parents fault? Guilty of neglect yes but he did what he did.

4. Jay master jay tragedy

5. I have trouble that the mother is going to jail for a crime her son committed when he has been imprisoned for life. He needs care and help. Throwing him behind bars for the rest of his life when the prosecution is saying that the parents should have got him help then he wouldn't have done it. Why isn't he put into a medical institution at least and it be determined after x amount of years and if it is deemed, he is still a danger then he stays there for life?

6. It's good to hear Jam Master Jays killers could be brought to justice . He was a hero role model and inspiration to me growing up in Northern England and having a lifelong love for Hip Hop music from first hearing in my early teens

7. I don't agree, I've always thought he was clearly guilty but we have a process that's suppose to go unimpeded. The trial should be thrown out.

8. It’s a shame he didn’t get a new trial! We are all next

9. It is the absurdity of this adversarial judicial system: the goal is not to find the truth, the goal is to prevail regardless. There is also disregards for the cost to the society. Jurors are not god, the judges can be more decision makers

10. JUST STOP-IT!!!! the judge applied the LAW… SHE WAS ALLLL OVER THE PLACE!
    no. that "one-juror" was ALLL over the place. then ADMITTED her affidavit was CORRECT. she felt pressure from her peers.
    sounded like juror Z was coached, by her murdaugh team attorney mccoullough ???

11. Murdaugh is the only person who saw any benefit from a juror saying they were influenced immediately. It was not beneficial to truth or to justice at such an inopportune time for the process itself. He tried to manipulate the system into giving him a new trial and the courts were experienced enough to see what he was doing.

12. Didn't juror Z admit that it was actually the other jurors during deliberations that ultimately was the catalyst for her guilty verdict?

13. ❤❤❤Gigi!!!

14. Yes, totally agree with both of you re: a.murdaugh case. I have even less faith now in the judicial system.

15. Is the denial of a new trial the same as upholding his conviction? I'm not a lawyer, so this is my layman's interpretation. I would have thought the basis for wanting a new trial was based on procedural impropriety, whereas upholding his conviction would be a reflection on the merits. Am I wrong? Please help, lawyers.

16. Love GiGi! Her channel is great.

17. If that one juror was influenced by the court clerk , who would have no more knowledge of whether the defendent is guilty than the juror herself or anyone else who heard all the evidence that was presented in court, then she needs to get a backbone.

18. Honestly, with the Crumbley case, it’s known that parents can and usually will be criminally liable for their children’s actions until they are over the age of 18. That alone makes them open to being charged. In my opinion, it’s weird that we aren’t charging more parents like this. More and more we’re seeing young kids making very adult decisions and the parents are so unconcerned or completely unaware. Maybe beginning to hold them accountable for their children will start to make for more responsible parents who actually take the time to check in with their kids instead of making it the school’s problem.

19. Juror Z's credibility is no better than Miss Becky's. Juror Z never would have said anything if Poot and Team didn't show up on her door step…so did Poot influence her decision to say what she said and is that why she felt nervous on the stand?! 🤔

20. Im lost

21. someone check juror z's bank accounts.

22. Judge punted it to the appellate court

23. Yes, Ethan got that gun without permission or knowledge from his Mother, but if it would of been locked away properly nothing would of happened.

24. What “slippery slope” are we talking about here? Those parents are in court not because they are shitty parents that did not got their son the help that could have avoided a murder spree, they are in court because they gave as a Christmas present a gun to a child they knew it was deeply disturbed.How the hell are they not responsible? No matter what side you are on on the guns issue, only someone criminally negligent would allow their children unlimited access to a gun. No safe, nothing. I’m with the guest, I never heard of anyone normal that owns guns that would do this with kids in the house. So clearly this is far from a “slippery slope” this is really a special case.

25. Has the question been asked. Who's idea was it to get the gun? Did Ethan ask for it as his most wanted birthday gift? No guessing needed if son was put on stand, just like boy in the box.

26. Reply!! Love me some Gigi!!!

27. I love to hear Gigi. Her takes are so great. Thanks for this episode!

28. Alex Murdaugh looks like he'd eat your children. He'd scare a Baba Yaga.

29. Remember, if this can happen to murdaugh it can happen to you or someone you love.

30. The thing with the thing in trial is that if jury influenced, what if he didn't do it and they never find the one who did.

31. Thanks again for giving me a lot to think about! I always watch (listen, really) to these at least twice so I can really let it all sink in. Love your delivery, Joshua. I haven't found any other podcasts that can compare to yours!

32. Hello Joshua and Gigi – great podcast episode today. As a person that grew up on 80’s and 90’s music, I never thought Jam Master Jay’s killer would be caught. I’m happy his family is having their day in court. The Crumbley case defense attorney is definitely giving her client a jealous defense. I will give her that. I’m sure the Attorney is phenomenal on paperwork! Trial work, in my Property Manager opinion, may not be her best work. Gigi, I loved the conversation with you and the COE on STS last week, I’ve caught your most recent visit with Joel as well. Joshua – I will be watching you tonight on STS at 7:00pm. Have a wonderful week!

33. You click bait now. Wow😂

34. And GiGi?!?! 🥰 What a treat!!!! 💕

35. Yay Tuesday with Joshua! 💕

36. Testimony in the Michigan trial was completed on Friday… case went to jury Monday morning. Not to mention you are taking a lot of things out of context in regards to what actually happened. Do yourselves a favor and watch EC’s Miller Hearing – he outright admits he didn’t tell his parents anything.

37. Joe Mucullough sending in another request for jury Z was just desperation and the jurors testimony was inconsistent. Now they are going to take a 3rd bite to fit their narrative ? Lol

38. I was surprised ya'll skipped over the fact that Juror Z gave one story in her affidavit, another in her first testimony, and then another when she was brought back in to clarify. Her testimony can't be trusted. That you two pretended none of that happened is very disappointing.

39. Any Jury member is to Listen to the evidence which all the others appear to have done- I’m not saying this juror is gaining anything but it seems odd and we know “the good old boys club pull strings” would love to see any correspondence between the defence and them.

    Let’s be honest I wonder how many jurors in any trial particularly big ones like this are able nowadays with papers/news/ web etc and trials being broadcast to not be aware of what’s going on. I bet they read the comments on trial threads no difference to those swaying their opinion – if that was really the case.

    I truly believe he thought he would get off somehow- I always wonder if it’s why he didn’t contest the financial side and the sentence ( obviously so much evidence and I’m sure he didn’t want to hear how he had screwed up so many people) but if he could overturn this it wouldn’t be life sentence just the finance.

    I don’t trust any of his counsel at all.

40. hi

41. Her background looks weird…

42. Whay about perjury? This juror Z gave at least 3 different statements. One at verdict, one at affidavit and one at this hearing. Neither two were the same statements and Dick Harpootlian wanted juror Z to read the affidavit again to recollect their memory, but the judge drew the line. I mean, if you lie, at least be consistent. But isn't there a law you shouldn't lie under oath? Anyways, if juror Z was ever intimidated, I think that became later, not at the verdict time. They could be threatened in some way to get the new trial for that killer and this is the easiest way to get the juror into this mess. People forget that the simplest explanation is usually correct one.

43. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth about potential jurors. Not one of them reported that Becky Hill was doing all this while it was going on. And then they all got up there under oath and swore this verdict was theirs and only theirs alone. If ppl can not comprehend basic instructions,and be that influenced by a few words and not the evidence presented then our judicial system is in more trouble than i already thought it was.

44. You can argue whether all partcipants acted correctly, but you can't argue the overwhelming evidence against Murdaugh.

45. Love Gigi💖🌹

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