Convicted child abusers and former social media influencers Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt acted very differently during their arrests and initial questioning by police in August 2023. They entered guilty pleas to four counts of aggravated child abuse each and were sent to prison. Law&Crime’s Jesse Weber scrutinizes their body language with expert Susan Constantine.
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I can't be bothered wasting my time watching this rubbish about body language. Just hope the kids will be fine
But how did jodi know the boy was gone?
9:00 I mean, she's not wrong. Never say anything to the cops, no matter how nice & sincere they might seem. Just because Jodi's evil doesn't mean she's wrong.
You don’t need a search warrant with probable cause.
She says she’s honest but lied to the cops about not using the locked room for 6 years. She lied about not being able to remember the code to the door.
She did know they would be coming… because she was out looking for Russel and came up upon the cops and asked if they seen a boy or they asked her.. I can’t remember but I know there was an interaction before hand before they got to Russel I believe. I think it was in the 20/20 doc.. maybe?
And at some point when she was out side with the cop.. her lawyer said something like.. they are there because you lied to them… and then Jodi stopped him and said she was on speakerphone.
I’d love to know what someone who is reacting without guilt would look like.
Great video, agreed with everything you said. Along with the part that Kevin knows more than hes saying!
She’s trying to convince us she’s crazy to not stand trial.
I think he didn't believe it at first and he's just catching up to the information they are telling him.
Supposedly, he was working with Jody for himself as well. I wonder if at those points they were describing the sons condition he was having flashbacks to some thing that happened to him? But yes, it’s horrible He didn’t show any remorse in that moment when they talked about his son.
Don't Forget,, Jodi Has had A Lot of Power w/the Church Elders
Kevin Franke sat there ONLY knowing there was an emergency involved with his kids and NEVER ASKED how they were or what happened…. He ABSOLUTELY KNEW what was happening… SICKENING to think he is allowed to walk free, defending Jodi and Ruby…
THAT BLANK STARE IS HOW MUCH DO THEY KNOW HAVE THEY FOUND THE DIARY DO THEY KNOW ABOUT THE SAFE HANDCUFFS THE ROPE WITH DNA AND HOW MUCH MONEY IS IN THE BANK
I get it some more now. Ruby was attracted to Jodi because in Ruby's eyes? She saw something she wanted. A successful business with an expensive house, plenty of followers, an independent career. That was the attraction. Ruby told Kevin she was trying to create another income stream for herself. Kevin represented too many children. Someone who probably made her feel second class as a person. Everything was in Kevin's name which was interesting but proof of Ruby's lack of an advanced education. She might have felt some resentment toward Kevin too because of the freedom he had with his career that she didn't feel she had access to. Why moving away from is understandable. No push from Kevin to attend College for herself?
Jodi and Pam were willing to take on some of Ruby's responsibility for her children. Which of course was very attractive to Ruby because she was tired of playing mommy dearest. No, tangible rewards or even financial assests. Especially when her behavior toward her children was ruining her profitable channel. It led her to seek out solutions. Help, Ruby was willing to pay anything for. A situation Jodi couldn't resist because she was getting so much positive attention from Ruby as well as a lot of access to the Franke wallet with no real stipulations on how she chose to spend her ill gotten gain.
I think Kevin felt secure in Ruby's dependency on him. He didn't see that she would look elsewhere to find that same level of security in someone else. Jodi offered security and support in her vendetta against her children, especially the youngest ones.
I can't get over Kevin's saying how much confidence he has in Jodi after hearing all of the insane activities she was involved with. Nervous breakdown, asked to leave other's homes when she has a huge home of own? Crazy stuff flying around the home. Pushing him out of his own bed. Secret meetings? That is a trustworthy person? Well, it was someone who was willing to deal with your kids so you do not have to. That is about it. It allowed Kevin to maintain his active life at the College, among his collegues, students, his work. No worries. Out-of-site, out of mind.
It shows a high level of mistrust of law enforcement from all of them.Kevin acted like they were lying to him.I think he wasn't ready to believe the "made up story" till he got out of there to fact check.Thank goodness officers were there to rescue those kids.That is exactly what they are there for.
I don't think she was surprised that officers were there. She was surprised that the officers removed her from her house without a search warrant. I would have been surprised too if I was her because that is not allowed under most circumstances.
She really should study up on how ptsd sufferers behave because her expert opinion is eroneous when put in context….Its a worry when you use her opinion as objective when it is far from the truth….
Her approach would have worked well to feed her ego and narc side. Smart woman in the green blazer
Kevin is such a bad actor. Please convict Kevin on those grounds alone as it speaks volumes. Why are you acting Kevin?? Gross!
Let's not forget, Ruby kept a diary. Not Jodi. Jodi is totally wack too though. A perfect example of people feeding each other's madness.
This was the only YouTube video that didn’t have the kids’ names removed.
Ruby faked that whole speech during trial and the state actually believed her !!!!!!!!
It seems Hildebrandt prepared everyone else not to say a word and Ruby and the little girl obeyed.
She also knew that it was just the girl… nothing about the boy
What amazes me is that she had other people staying on the property (air b&b ) while this vile crime was being committed against these children.
Jodi is such a liar.. She told the police she hadn’t been in that safe room for 6 yrs and couldn’t remember the combination to the lock. Wonder how the cuff links and rope got in that room? Haha. She probably put the cuffs in the room right after the little boy escaped from these monsters knowing the police were coming.
I’m unsure that this body language expert is familiar enough with Mormon emotional training. They are trained from very young to keep their emotional reactions in check and under control. I was unsurprised by how disconnected Kevin seemed
Why is all those connections videos are they seated so very close together….???? I think they were lovers because Jodi is very much a Lesbian and I think Ruby could be so easily manipulated….she isn’t very smart…
The father needs to be charged. He had a responsibility as a father to protect his children. It is clear to anyone that he is deceptive.
Three adults who usually have so much to say, suddenly speechless.