Wagner convicted in Pike County massacre; Masterson case declared a mistrial – TCD Sidebar

1. Enjoyed this episode with Florina. Very interesting facts and viewpoints shared. Would like to hear more podcasts with her participation. Especially Alaska experience.

2. Where is Anna Garcia at!?!?

3. I used to love this channel but the podcast is irritating I JUST WANNA WATCH A CRIME EPISODE WITH NO EFFING TALKING 😢

4. I LOVE how Florina just blatantly explains why a defendant takes the stand. I love her straight up, brutal honesty.

5. Law enforcement coercion to confess is very powerful and is misused.

6. It was initially thought the massacre was over drugs. Turned out child custody.

7. I would have never been able to convict George Wagner 4, not any evidence whatsoever he was at the scene or knew anything about it til after the fact.

8. I like this lawyer. She tells it as it is 😂

9. I don't care what anybody says I still say the deputy sheriffs did it

10. Can you do time stamps?

11. it does not matter? it matters a lot to the victims. think!!!!

12. alfred drevis intro theme!!!

13. I watch real interrogations on here all he time and I can see where some would just confess,but Generally that's what cameras and voice

14. That Ortiz monster is guilty BS

15. I really feel that Masterson is guilty. It's sad because I used to love that guy

16. Thank you for a great video.

17. Wagner was a long long trial

18. She’s smart and sounds like lady Gaga.

19. How this woman talks about sex crimes… Saying good or bad… It’s never good. Never. I don’t care if it is helping your career go through the roof. It’s never good.She used a prosecutor and now she is a defense attorney….. In the whole thing about coerced confessions… I don’t care if the cops had me in interrogation for 72 hours with no food or water. I’m not going to admit to murder when I didn’t actually murder somebody. That is the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard

20. Florina is an excellent commentator. Well done.

21. I was on the fence on George Wagner's guilt, then that powerful rebuttal by the Prosecution brought it all home. That's when I realized that George was one guilty S.O.B.

22. 1. r@pe allegations will ruin a (normal) man's life whether he's found guilty or not and women need to think "was this legit a violent and against my will act or am I just regretting letting this person have sex with me?" and "what if this was my brother or father being accused?" 2. if these ppl weren't all famous or semi famous, he would've probably got a a year or two, of course put on the registry and a few years probation and that's a fact. I believe he was upfront about what kind of favor he expected for a favor and most of them definitely knew what he expected and went anyway because they wanted a certain movie role or higher pay. What I want is to see these women show up at regular women's trials and advocate for them.. I haven't heard anything else about the whole me too movement and it was never about women as a whole and was only about these few women and the men they had a vendetta against in my opinion because I never seen them care about any other women just that little clique they created.

23. Thank you Joshua and Florina for another thought provoking and informative podcast episode. I always learn something new from your discussions with the guests that you have on this podcast, as well as the cases that you discuss.

24. It wouldn't surprise me to find out that the damn Scientologists inserted a mole in the Masterson jury. Cults are capable of anything.

25. They wiped out that entire family 🥺😰

26. You don’t need to specify what their job was, they were human beings, they were daughters, mothers, sisters, aunts, cousins, friends. That “detail” makes you look like you are implicitly saying “they were murder because (or but they were sex workers”. Let’s get rid of the misogynistic language and the wrong concept that value of people is linked to your social status.

27. I often wonder how often a defendant can win a new trial on appeal due to their own election to take the stand in their own defense and claim that their own testimony led to their conviction, Josh? Jody Arias absolutely comes to mind here (not that she did receive a re-trial thank goodness and to the absolute relief of Juan Martinez !!) Jim C.

28. I can't believe she basically said it was her job to get criminals off the hook! How can you defend a criminal knowing they committed a crime? 🙄🙄

29. Geez people..sigh… why does he bring up the five. They were all guilty,🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ I miss someone smart from fucking Alaska please be quiet, OMG this is bad bad bad.

30. Great guest! Love her participation in this episode! She is very knowledgeable, and explained every aspect of each case very well.

31. The mother who took plea deal is behind this killing

32. She’s really good

33. Hey guys, one question – when the jury comes and tells the judge they're hung, does the judge know (needs to be told) what direction their deliberation is going? Like the ratio 8-2 for not guilty etc.?

34. As a woman, and a mother, I really need to hear some personal story, explaining why any woman chooses to defend the absolute worst of society, for her entire profession. What possesses a woman to choose that for herself? What mitigating factors could there be, which allow me to look upon you, with anything other than utter disgust and profound disappointment at the depth and breadth of their betrayal. Make it make sense for me.

35. I really enjoyed the guest speaker!

36. I really like her!!

37. Dear Person That's Reading This You May Be Goin Through Something But God Got U What You He Didn’t Bring You This Far To Quit.We all Don’t Know Each Other But I Wish U All The Best In Life 2022 And Beyond.🇧🇸❤️~Marcia~

38. Great guest! She can explain legalese in layman's terms, to any audience… hope to see her again

39. Sorry lady you are wrong, one can know where the body is if someone else, like the killer told them. Doesn't mean it's not a false confession, only that it's more likely it's not a false confession.

40. Absolute pleasure to listen to Mrs. Altshiler answer your questions on the cases discussed in this one…brilliant…thank you Mr. Ritter…a very very interesting and fascinating episode…Looking forward to seeing this amazing lady back on your show. Thank you.

41. Joshua – I am so happy that Florina joined you this week. I was curious about wether or not the Prosecution would retry Danny Masterson. It seems unlikely they would get a conviction based on the age of the accusations alone. My heart goes out to the victims but, I have to say having the Church of Scientology involved just adds a barrier to obtain the truth. I really wish that case had been televised. Thank you both for a great side bar.

42. With the “Forced Confession” problem; why don’t people just sit there and say nothing? If you’re Truly innocent,you say not a damn word!

43. Such a tragedy they all deserve the death penalty. It's so sad all these kids have to grow up with no parents.

44. George was surprisingly good on the stand and i suggest his lawyers agreed to this move as he had nothing to lose and years to train up.

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