All Is Not Lost for Labour

1. Delusional lefties

2. The interviewer is clueless.

3. Keep deluding yourself, it was Corbyn , leaded by momentum that lost labour the party the GE
   You keep talking to yourself in north London , in 2017 Corbyn lost the GE he was 60 seats short in 2019?the worse defeat since 1935 Corbyn was never ever going to win in 2019 ever , and not just because of brexit it was because the country did not want a marxist ,socialist , anti Semitic PM who hates every thing about this country

   People like this bloke talking is talking absolute bollocks , just more denial from the left ,
   Why are you banging on about the NHS no government will ever sell off it they will be out of office for ever ,
   Has for the young vote it did not happen in 2017 or2019 for labour ,
   Then we have the laughing of the middle class white bloke , just more sneering
   It's people like you two presenting this presentation that the working class despise , and why labour will be out of office for a decade or more ,
   The real news network only on your fantasy island , get out of London and speak to real people not just those in your echo chamber or at dinner party's

   Has for Corbyn hanging around the Labour Party like the Grim reaper what an embarrassment
   You two are one reason in many why I would never ever vote labour

   The Labour Party are like addicted in denial and until they admit they have a problem they will never get better
   Corbyn and momentum are like there pushers offering one more fix and it will be great

4. Labour lost it when Blair took power in 1997 – they gave London 200 languages which sent 1 million Londoners fleeing to the corners of Britain. Word spread by mouth that Labour was full of British hating twats and rabid neo-colonialists.
   The chickens have come home LOL.

5. Thank you for bringing Tariq Ali on

6. "The Scottish vote went left(?) for the National(?) Scottish Party." Oddly British and English nationalism never get that softer pass. If you think the SNP isn`t driven by the dislike of the `other` you`ve got your head up your arse.

7. JC was betrayed by our MPs and ministers and voters and we know that the fascist medias were degrading him. Big up to you Tariq

8. We will be back no matter what

9. Corbyn was letting democracy in the party run its course while strongly campaigning for an agenda that is much wider than Brexit.

   In the face of the media climate, and for other reasons as well, I believe the party should have more than one primary leader. Having a single leader’s likeness constantly attributed to a divided party is an immense risk.

10. This commentary is misleading. Labour has a major image problem. I can cite antisemitism, foolish policies like a four day week and free internet. People do not trust Corbyn and his politics. This had a major influence on the election. Not a word of this from this commentator. This is purely labour propaganda.i thought this channel was supposed to be impartial? I'm no longer going to donate. The real news is now a leftist organisation and there is little insight or balanced opinion to be had. Add to this, where is Pay Jay? It's been sad seeing what was a valued need source turn into yet more of the same!

11. I'll never understand why the left gets excited about their youth support. It doesnt mean youve got a generation of lefties coming. They'll grow up. Those 60 yr olds that you hate now, they were the lefty youth 40 years ago.

12. Labour are finished, Labour represent the liberal elite NOT the working man.

13. Listened to about half of this. Not sure I'm going to listen to the rest. Why the revisionist history? Brexit didn't happen under May because the Tories Didn't vote for it, not because of a 2nd referendum campaign by labour. The 2nd referendum took off when the Tories fell apart and started fighting each other over a no-deal.

    Johnson came back with a weird deal that was identical to the one 'no prime minister could ever sign' six months before, and got a 2nd reading. But he pulled it, so we gave him his Brexit election and then refused to fight the election on that basis.

    This was a Tory project.

    You can argue the rights and wrongs of any of this, but you have to do so from a position of honesty and accuracy, or you never learn from it. Which is what I fear for Labour.

14. The North rejected Labour's multicultural open borders homo feminising Marxist agenda's. Most People don't live in the London /M25 bubble we live in the real world where our family's and culture is being eroded by labour / leftist liberals.

15. Identical to the happenings in the US.Except privatization, so far.

16. the real news is how outside money influenced the election via messaging on the internet, and influencing algorithms… why is this not being discussed?

17. The British electoral system, like the American – distorts the true picture for the Left.

    Under continental PR systems, new coalitions of the Left such as Tyriza or Podemos challenge the centre-ground, and are seen as a major new Left-wing force, however, under the British system, the emergence of the Left has come through the established party system, which manifests in internecine factionalism.

    Also to misplaced accusations of failure when an election is lost, when in reality Corbyn's share of the vote is still pretty remarkable for a Leftist candidate, considering the Left was nowhere in British politics barely five years ago.

    That's why the so-called FPTP system has to go, just as the electoral college has to go. Corbyn's last two elections have been nothing short of miraculous. I mean 203 seats on a program of nationalization, anti imperialism, and massive investment in public services. The Left no longer cast out as dinosaurs – but dynamite

18. Great Remoaner tears! Revenge is sweet indeed!

19. The voters wanted Brexit done and out of the way. Labour simply offered more delay and the possibility of overturning the result of the 2016 vote. You might not like it,but it was voted for so suck it up and move on. If a second vote was ever to take place,the vote to leave would have been even more anyhow. Labour shot themselves in both feet and will be limping around for the foreseeable future. Time to end for good the cult of leftism and the ridiculous way Labour went from being a political party to a fan club for an old school socialist. 18 months/two years from now there are going to be millions out there in former Labour seats saying to themselves "What the hell was I thinking"?

20. "Privatization of the NHS will run rampant"? Utterly unfounded. The Tories are committed to expanding funding of the NHS, much of which was ALREADY privatized by the previous Labour government! The Corbynistas are middle-class woke authoritarians, determined to restrict free speech in the media and on campus while they trumpet expansion of the state apparatus and open-door immigration. They have lost the working class, and no amount of holier-than-thou frothing will get them back.

21. The modern left fundamentally has very few ideas to solve the problems our societies face.

22. You think Brexit will be forgotten by the North in a year. It took us 30 years to get over Thatcher and even then we haven't really. As young people get older they become more Conservative. Absolutely delusional if you think Labour will be in next election with more of the same extreme marxist ideology rammed down the throats of the electret with that 'boot boy OR ELSE' attitude style of re-education the left takes such pride in online calling anyone that disagrees with them racist bigot gammon. Yep that'll get you a solid hammering in any election. Voted Labour for 25 years.

23. you need a name change to the unreal news

24. It was relentless character assassination and LIES about Labour by the Right Wing media

25. Privatisation is more efficient? Has the silly old duffer been asleep for the last 40 years?

26. Majority did not want Brexit. How come so many pundits ignore this?
    John Curtice 2019 EURef2 Poll of Polls, The National Centre for Social Research (NatCen).
    
    https://whatukthinks.org/eu/opinion-polls/euref2-poll-of-polls/

    “Pollsters argue that surveys are more accurate today than before the referendum because they have the 52-48 result as a base to work from and thanks to other changes in methodology. Nicholas Cecil, ‘Poll of polls: now we want to stay in,’ Evening Standard, 8 October, 2018.
    
    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-news-latest-majority-of-brits-now-want-to-remain-in-the-eu-anaylsis-of-nearly-150-polls-finds-a3956181.html

    Savage, M. 2018 More than 100 seats that backed Brexit now want to remain in EU: Major new analysis shows most constituencies now have majority who want to Remain, 12 Aug.
    
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/11/more-than-100-pro-leave-constituencies-switch-to-remain

    Low, A. (Revd.) 2016 Brexit is not the will of the British people – it never has been, LSE, 26 Oct.
    
    http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/brexit-is-not-the-will-of-the-british-people/

    “A majority of Britons now want the country to stay in the European Union, according to analysis of nearly 150 polls for the Evening Standard.”
    
    Nicholas Cecil, ‘Poll of polls: now we want to stay in,’ Evening Standard, 8 October, 2018.
    
    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-news-latest-majority-of-brits-now-want-to-remain-in-the-eu-anaylsis-of-nearly-150-polls-finds-a3956181.html

27. Lexit- the biggest sellout by the Socialism in the one country brigade since the Spanish Civil War. Or were they merely US dupes, white anting the left?

28. It was the strategy using simple strap lines to win over marginal seats in the first past the post system that won. Percentage wise right wing parties won 48% of the vote, libral and left wing 52%. So the country is still split and over half the population are still being ignored

29. it's not called the establishment for nothing…ITV has suddenly discovered were it left it's balls by showing John Pilger's "The War on the NHS"…it confirms that privatisation was the plan all along. Shockingly it was Teflon Tony who started the ball rolling…all but one Labour MP stood up for the NHS…no prizes for guessing who it was…

30. Johnson’s going to build new high tec hospitals with taxpayer money, then guess what, Americans will step in and get them for nothing, because they’ll say we will run them for ya at our expense. That’s when the fees start creeping in, with a million reasons why they have to charge, £30.000 for a hip replacement. Then Pinocchio Johnson will muss his hair up and mumble something like a cheeky chappy. And think to himself ‘ suckers, I got away with that one!’

31. Brexiteers are paranoid, myopic gastropods who elected for the Salt Party.
    Shit is coming down the pipe and it doesn't care which party was elected, it doesn't care about sovereignties, borders, economics, or the pathetic welfare of the apex predator – Homo sapiens-'sapiens'.
    It will level the playing field, once and for all.

32. It is quite evident that Tariq is totally in bed with imperialists as is normal with Tritskeyists
    He does not acknowledge the cyclical nature of capitalism .whatdiffernce does it make
    Think about the Beatles revolution
    Change your mind instead

33. Labour have no clue ! They don't know wheather to go left or right, Brexit or remain . They have no power in Scotland, and i mean no power , they fighting for 4th place behind the SNP, Tories, Lib-Dems fighting with the greens , and the greens will win that one in Scottish elections. Labour used to comand in Scotland, now they are worse than useless! And make no mistake they are not coming back in Scotland any time soon . SNP have replaced Labour. You can only go so far left ! There is a point where you will go to far and never get any power, this scatergun approach with nationalisation without bringing the people with you with no clue how this would work in Scotland, knowing fine well we are tired of london dictating is over . Labour needs a whole new agenda starting with what might work , not what they think is good for us ! But i suspect the very left project must continue , well they better have a good grasp of numbers, because they got very little numbers in Scotland!

34. English people dislike Jeremy and distrust him and his Cobybistas. Simple. JC helped us lose the EU.

35. Around 52% of the vote went to parties supporting Remain or a second referendum.

36. Funny…. I thought they lost BIG TIME😂🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

37. Privatising NHS will be major problem for Boris. There will be protests and he will lose the Labour voters he gained.

38. Keep a weary eye open.

39. Brexit came at the right time for the Tories the British will pay a huge price voting these supper capitalists in , the middle class and the poor will suffer

40. Glad to say you guys are quite wrong on Labour coming back, they're done in England. As is the case in Scotland, once they lose their seats they won't come back, the genie is out of the bottle. Also it's very well known that political leanings go to the right with age so the young people now will be more conservative as they get older. There may be a few over educated hold outs like Tariq but no where near enough to win an election.

41. The Left have been destroyed because the public have woken up to their tricks. Tariq needs to brush that hair off his sweater.

42. To all you left and particularly far left believers – You do know Corbyn was born in a Manor house, educated the expensive way and is richer than Boris. Jeremy’s parliamentary pension fund alone is over £3million. His rich family have a fortune to self-loath in champagne when he retires. Jeremy didn’t have the character to drive his party with his life long wish to leave the EU, he let factions, both far left and centrists within to control the Anti-Brexit stance and that really killed their support base as they were ignoring their own voters.
    And the left wonder, with tears stinging with voter shaming eyes, why they lost the confidence and support of the majority with all their bullying, abusive, hateful, smug, self-righteous, virtue signalling, purity testing, petulant, self denial and tone deaf disrespect to their own supporters, let alone trying to punish rather than persuade other voters to vote for them, who without, they will be permanently infighting in eternal powerless opposition. Go on, talk for six months in your self consoling, anti-social media bubbles of siloed supporters and blame everybody and everything but yourselves for your loss. We need a strong, responsible opposition and it seems Labour and the Lib Dems (who have recently been neither Liberal or Democratic) won’t be in that position for atleast 5 if not 10 years. The tories didn’t win this election, Labour lost it completely, hook, line and sinker.

43. It is now!

44. This is very complacent. Labour young people are largely progressive neoliberals. Unless they can be winnowed out, we're in for repeats of this result. And no-one seems to think anything needs doing.

45. I guess England and the US are not so different.

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