The ‘Alternative for Germany’ is trying to chip away at Germany’s culture of remembrance and its memorials to the victims of Nazi atrocities. Lamenting that young people were being made to feel guilty, the party appears to see no problem in forgetting the lessons of history.
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It is the height of insecurity to demand that one's nation must be praised or else risk nobody liking them. If Germany is so great then it doesn't need works patting itself on the back and it can handle, just fine, remembering the mistakes of its past.
2:26 So stressing historical German achievements and progress is 'wrong and downright dangerous'. The Nazi period, ghastly though it was, lasted a mere twelve years. Can this man see no virtue in celebrating the good in his country's history?I am not aware of any overt Russian guilt over the crimes of Communism, yet the death toll from these exceeded that of Nazi Germany.
OY VEY!
When will the world learn to stop oppressing Germany? Making them define themselves as a shameful race for generations is no more an answer than was the treaty of versailles. “Germans are the only people in the world who plant a monument of shame in the heart of the capitalâ€. They need to get rid of it, take ownership of their own direction and stop living in the past. Making Germany bear a heavy burden does nothing good in the long run, and never has.
Plenty of things have happened!! Russia starved millions of Ukrainians!! Turkey killed millions of Armenians ,,many African nations kidnapped there own people and sold 5 million who went to America!! While 15 million went to South America. The native Americans massacred each other ,us Americans used that to our benefit,to pin tribe's that were at war on and off against each other, Spain Conquered South America!! Japan committed mass murder in china and all over the Pacific.. China killed over 40 million of there own people!! Russia killed millions of there own people.in the dark ages Africans and middle easterns invaded Europe and killed millions, also took millions back to Africa as slaves. But when whites become slaves thats ok!! But don't buy black slaves from black people.lol every minority plays the victim in the western nations!! But there ancestors have just as much blood on there hands as mine!! GET over that past!! Know the past ,but don't Dwell on the past!!
Russia should be like this for what they did to Ukraine!
never forget….. until you don´t care anymore. pretty sad to see that
No need to fight … simply ignore the entire topic. Rise above it.
I don't blame them, they know Trump/Hitler 2.0 is right around the corner.
This is typical for the far right. They still identify with their historical counterparts and what to rehabiliate their reputation.
Is this report mean to be in favour of or against AFD …. I became more sympathetic to them after watching…. its time for Germany to more on – too much "remembering". The people who did the wrongs have died off. No need to keep punishing their grandchildren and great grandchildren.
OK, then, does this mean that we should forget about ALL the genocides in the history of humanity???! If it's ok for Germany, it's ok for the rest as well ??
All countries should be more nationalistic,
always remember Hitler didn't gas any Rothschild Zionists so all right wingers are Zionists
Remember the Past – Don't Live it
Why do Netanyahu and his ilk and nearly all democratic-socialist Jews in the US agree exactly on all things Holocaust but nearly nothing else? Why is that narrative so untouchable? Why is it against the law in places to even research the subject, to attempt to verify anything, to be open to finding holes in the narrative? It strikes me as being akin to the "New Anti-Semitism." Yet, the left and right do not agree on that "new" definition of anti-Semitism. I find the treatment of Holocaust by Jews left and right extremely strange: singularly unique in all human history. Erdogan gets upset at the mention of the Armenian genocide, but it's not illegal to research it with an open mind. I found it helpful when Germans started speaking out against what is being done to Palestinians by fascist Zionists in Israel. They had been too afraid not long ago. Racist Germans could hide behind that as a smoke screen, but I want the Germans to stand up and not be silent.
Americans, including South Americans, and Canadians should take note of this, for if we're to be ethically integral, then we'd need to have REMEMBERANCE of what was genocidally done to American indigenous peoples, north and south, and we've never had this. We of course can and should individually REMEMBER this history of the Americas, and we have the ability to do this; but, we definitely don't have this in official terms. One reason why it could be important for us to do this is because of our continuing oppression of the indigenous here. In the case of Nazi Germany, I don't know of Germany continuing to oppress Jews, Gypsies, and some Christians, f.e. I think Germany could cease the official rememberance things officially happening there. For us to learn about that history, all we need to do is some reading, for the material is readily available for everyone; but, there remains plenty or a lot of covering up, if not burying of the history of the Americas. And we have a lot of immigration by people who don't seem to care about this sort of history of the Americas at all. We seem to have a sort of subtle way of trying to continue to make much of our history as unknown as possible. Thankfully, some, a few, people don't and write about the history, but it's likely that most people of the Americas haven't yet come across these writings. Should Germans who don't have any historical relation with the Nazi regime of the eastern part of the country need to be constantly reminded about the errors of the eastern part? I don't think it should be done in official-like ways and any western Germans can pick up and read books that cover this history just as readily as anyone else on this planet can. Germany might want to provide the rememberance in official ways, but this shouldn't be forced upon the population. And, imo, while Nazi Germany was hellbent mad, I don't think it was worse than our govts are; and, the latter is to be REMEMBERED and never forgotten. Nazi Germany is past history, but the hellbent ways of our govts, which have far longer history than can be sad of Nazi Germany, aren't, for the hellbent ways of our govts are undeniably continuing; and, it all clearly enough is far from being over, stopped.
First of all If you keep somebody in guilt you easily can control him!
We all learned this lesson when we were a child!
And second point – under Merkel the CDU a former conservative party has become a left wing party sometimes with positions that are far left!
Take the mass immigration for example!
So it was just logical that a new party was formed!
And now the AFD as a new conservative party took over everything what Merkel refuses to deliver!
That DW as a left wing government broadcaster consider AFD as "far right" should no one really wonder!
Americans, including South Americans, and Canadians should take note of this, for if we're to be ethically integral, then we'd need to have REMEMBERANCE of what was genocidally doe to American indigenous peoples, north and south, and we've never had this. We of course can and should individually REMEMBER this history of the Americas, and we have the ability to do this; but, w e definitely don't have this in official terms. One reason why it could be important for us to do this is because of our continuing oppression of the indigenous here. In the case of Nazi Germany, I don't know of Germany continuing to oppress Jews, Gypsies, and some Christians, f.e. I think Germany could cease the official rememberance things officially happening there. For us to learn about that history, all we need to do is some reading, for the material is readily available for everyone; but, there remains plenty or a lot of covering up, if not burying of the history of the Americas. And we have a lot of immigration by people who don't seem to care about this sort of history of the Americas at all. We seem to have a sort of subtle way of trying to continue to make much of our history as unknown as possible. Thankfully, some, a few, people don't and write about the history, but it's likely that most people of the Americas haven't yet come across these writings.
I don't get why germans always have to apologize for this, yet jews never have to apologize for bolshevism
Did the remembrance of the Holocaust and of Germany’s aggression in World War II prevent her from causing together with the US the disintegration of Yugoslavia and the resulting wars, from bombarding Serbia again, from plunging Greece into an economic depression, from taking part in the preparations for a war against Russia?
The AfD has a point. Germans are always required to feel guilty about their history. Any exoneration (for example by new research about the culprits of World War I) is forbidden even if it is historically correct. Some German conservatives call that attitude paradoxically: proud to be guilty. The lessons of history told to Germans are very selective and massive. Each country should be aware, of course, of her past and present political crimes but most countries are not, understandably, since such an awareness is stressful. Germans are taught a realistic story of their own recent past but a completely idealized one of their new western allies. It is rather macabre to be taught by past and current empires to think of the Holocaust as a breach of (Western) civilisation. Indeed, the new allies (US, UK, France, Israel) are bad models and they forced Germany to take part in their numerous wars.
heh education reform tied into nazi values
Perhaps no monuments, but certainly no book burnings.
Zionist Nazi Royals tricked us all in WW 1,2… and the camps are real… Never forget what hate can do when used with deception. We can never fall for it again. They burned Jews on purpose to get Israel. Im ashamed of them. 1936 Zionist Council.
Never Forget… But learn from it. Prove to the world who you are now. Do not try to rule us… Friends sounds better.
The AfD is the party where shameless deniers of the holocaust crimes feel at home! Nothing prevents Germans to feel pride for their recent history while acknowledging the horror of the Nazi era. Only those unwilling to learn from history are bent on denying the truth!
Gerhard Shroeder ended paying for the holocaust industry,
Germans have been replaced by "Nazis" in political narrative.
If Germans have already paid for the genocide than who is next to point at?
They have been cooperating all this time…
Free Palestine
I do not at all approve of the Zionist Nazi's in Israel doing the same atrocities to the Palestinian people. It is true in the US we were overly taught of the bad Germans during the Nazi rise which does instill a shame upon the german people.It has been programmed in me how bad the Germans were and how poor the victims of the Jewish descent and I am not German or Jewish. I find it ironic that the US education throughout my formulative years K-12, so much emphasis on the poor Jewish people and hardly anything about the US and it's equally worse holocaust of the original Native Americans ! Then to find we give thousands of dollars a day to Israel infuriates me while our own people and many Natives Americans live in poverty !
But u know that half of AFD were members of the CDU /CSU , like Gauland ..He didn't wake up one day and suddenly thought:mmh from this day on I will become a "Nazi"..All their lines are nothing new4older Germans who lived through the Kohl and Strauss area
..specially Strauss..
Quote;, from1870s “I fear the Jewish banks with their craftiness and tortuous tricks will entirely control the exuberant riches of America. And use it to systematically corrupt modern civilization. The Jews will not hesitate to plunge the whole of Christendom into wars and chaos that the earth should become their inheritance.†– Otto von Bismark
"We will make the West so corrupt – it STINKS!" Willi Munzenberg (zionist jew) 1920s
National Socialism was a leftist movement. In 1954, 27 percent of the SED were comrades, once in the NSDAP!
So if you are looking for antisemites you should look for links. The SPD and Greens also prove this in their hostile attitude towards Israel.
Thus, only the AfD and the FDP in the Bundestag voted for a pro-Israel policy in the UN.
I want to know when the equivalent is going to happen with the communist holocaust which destroyed far more people during the soviet reign of terror.
America is trying to forget its sordid history of chattel slavery and genocide to allow the familiar seed of evil (the one watered by the nazis) new fertile minds to plant. Until the west (its societies, its economies and banks) prove that it can flourish WITHOUT murder, gross exploitation and white supremacy, it will always be a built on barbarism and savagery. Unfortunately, the west requires violence to maintain and it will be because of the west that humanity loses.
This report is rather one-sided and misleading, especially with regard to the rather sparse reporting TRN does from Germany. It neglects the aspect of constant functionalizing of guilt especially by left-wing/social-democratic and "Green" party representatives in the service of crushing dissent.
How can we in America learn from this? I mean we have a similar past…and present. We deny our terrible war crimes and obscure our own version of Lebensraum for which Hitler commended us and even received inspiration from. Slavery, ethnic cleansing, genocide, wars of invasion and economic sabotage to acquire the resources of sovereign nations. The American war in Indochina alone cost 5 million lives and laid waste to a land parts of which may never recover but we feel no remorse and won't face the reality. We've already forgotten what we did to Iraq. Germany is doing right by owning up to its Nazi past but Americans already want to forget what they don't even remember.
Only if our government felt that way about how it's treated African American community! Reparations now!
If Germany elects the alt-right party then they haven't learned their lesson from the Nazi era, I would never visit Germany no matter what since what happened to my family there during the Nazi era and Holocaust.
So, should we erase all past histories to look positive and good?
OR should we know that every nation in this world has its own past black history and just understand it and move on positive direction rather than getting too emotional about this?
Erasing past is just as good as erasing identity, mindset, culture and tradition of a nation.
Can only shame a people so long
„Deutsche Welle“ is a german state broadcaster which contacts right wing terror with a german party (AFD) which stays in concurrence to the gouvernment party’s. This is propaganda.
Right wing terror is NOT limited to a certain party than rather also within other party’s in Germany …. as also in other parts of the world existing and a threat to all human beings.
So the limitation to one certain party is a reduction to a certain (small) field … which is wrong. Ultra right wing terror is a much bigger thread.
While I agree with the director of the memorial on 2:27 , I also have to agree with the claim attributed to the AFD at 0:39 . And I come to this convergent position from as far as possible from far -right nationalism: the culture of remembrance is weaponized against all "unpeoples" who are in the way of imperialism, such as the Congolese, Palestinians, Hutu, Iranians, Acholi and Serbs.
Thousands killed in Dresden when British Air Force bombed the city flat and then returned with incendiaries to burn the survivors whilst they were trying to rescue their loved ones… Nobody ever says that this was an atrocity
The world shouldn’t put all atrocities under carpet, the problem is that, the Victor who writes the history, that is the fact, but that will not mean we all be dumb and sheep baaa, baaa follow what we read from the victors, it’s preposterous to commit this mistakes if we want to avert a new WWIII, we must look seriously at the beneficiaries of both world wars, and we must see too wether it was the war of want or wars of need, and compare the events with what is happening now, than join the dot, if we don’t, we are going to allow the worlds undergo a new worlds wars for the benefit of the same groups of both past worlds wars. I never bought or buy that one party in the both World Wars a villain or a culprit, but either all culprit and stooges used to the benefit of those who benefited from both WW, that only done by an independent exercise, no red lines to be drawn, no excuses, no uses of Semitism or antisemite to benefit or disadvantage one party against others, but justice to prevail, if we do that, we can avert a new world wars or real Holocaust if we use our brain not our heart, it’s a serious for our survival, we all have been used by those warmongers, it’s time to wake up. If there is no beneficiary in this exercise, at least we know the causes of both wars, we must learn that lesson, in both way we will win.
Had a German exchange student in school, she skipped the days we were to learn about Germany and WW2. Teacher asked her about being absent and she said they are ashamed and don't really talk about it so she stayed home to avoid it.
The left leadership is so weak in Germany, but the elites get greedier and greedier, so I could see the far right assuming power next election
Even of the entire world remembers German atrocities there has been atrocities made by others ever since. So maybe remembering doesn’t prevent ANYTHING. Forgiving may be more powerful