Is TRNN Soft on Russia?

1. YOU GUYS ARE FUCKING AWESOME!!! TAYA TOO..!

2. Too Bad Paul and Dharna are out from the real news. Along with Mate's departure – the main reason real news now sucks most of the time. Things like the bs russiagate conspiracy died natural death there at TRNN. Right now, Steiner and their MSNBC-lite coverage of the news is the reason I unsubscribed.

3. Marc Steiner doesn't understand why Trump was elected by 60 million voters while a considerable number of the electorate didn't bother to vote at all (Clinton lost due to a lack of mobilization).

   Populism isn't a far Right movement, like the 'War on terror' it doesn't have a coherent ideological objective.

   Trump was elected by voters who are not 'sworn' to the Republican Party, because they had sensed that Donald Trump was resented by mainstream media ! That made him the 'most electable' candidate in their eyes !

   And before the far Left allows itself to be co-opted by the neo-liberal 'bosses' of the Democratic Party, pretending Putin installed Trump as if nobody actually voted for him, they should analyze the grievances of the demographics that don't buy into a socialist utopia of international solidarity , but who may support several pragmatic social reforms if it is 'framed' to them as an annoyance to the 'US oligarchy' .

   If the Left can build that kind of a 'clever', 'popular front' without trying to enforce conformity to dogmatic 'orthodoxy' then it will have finally arrived in the 21st century.

   In the end there will never be 'socialism' or an 'universal middle class' until the 'sky falls down' – but increased participation may be achievable which is the point of politics , short of war .

   As a sidenote, 'climate change' is a great pretext for a Western liberal hegemony , just as the 'Club of Rome' warned of overpopulation in the 1970s, inspiring the Chinese to drown some of their girls along a 'one child policy' . It is more likely to slide into a thermo-nuclear war about this issue than to convince emergent economies to slow their growth or to ban mass consumption without severe social instability – so good luck with this latest utopian ideal.

   To discuss the editorial line of the Real News Network on certain issues in public appears to me as a good service when compared to studying potentially biased 'media bias' ratings…

4. Marc Steiner annoys me with his Russophobia.

5. Get rid of Marc Steiner flat out kool-aid drinker……not responsible enough for his position. It is very important at this time in history to not do this. In the real world we the voters call it fake news. Win it back with trust honour and integrity don't baffle with BS or it's a shoe in for Trump. Are you trying to give him a second term??? Tulsi…..2020

6. This guy Marc Steiner is a social chauvinist.

7. 00:58. If this reader wants to wilfully straw-man Paul on Russian oligarchs, let's play the game straight back at them: the reader is absolving the Clinton Administration and the U.S. of ALL responsibility in the mass privatisation rush in Russia. Chauvinists like that have no place anywhere on "the Left"!

8. Re: Russia (under Putin's leadership) trying to undermine the environmental movement, they put out a position paper about 20 years ago saying that they welcomed global warming because it would be good for Russia, thawing more frozen ground to open it up for planting, etc. They've never backed off from that position. In the U.S., there's more pretense of believing it "doesn't exist" and isn't happening; in Russia, they don't even bother with the pretense.

9. Russiagate is such nonsense that it begins to look like a religion of sorts. people who read and know things realize what nonsense this Russiaphobia is. Blaming Russia for everything is a throw back to mccarthyism. Where is Aaaron mate – the best interviewer TRNN had.

10. The Google CEO was asked at a Senate hearing how much did some Russians spend on adds to influence the election, and he said, $4'700. He looked embarrassed and then said, 'Yeah, I know, but anything is too much, isn't it?' Ha, ha! And also, most of them were in Russian. Gee!

11. All operatives have been activated. Amazing.
    This is how an operative starts, here a 20 yo UK Bernie Sanders "organizer" unmasked (so sad) just as he was starting is operative career:
    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/12/british-security-service-infiltration-the-integrity-initiative-and-the-institute-for-statecraft/

12. Timestamp 22:00 Marc -marsians are real – Steiner "But russians are trying to influense elections…" Dude, singeling out Russians as if ITS a fking unique thing, is misleading dis honest spin!

13. As Marc Steiner keeps mentioning. He beleives in little Green men from mars. Eventhough these little Green men are fictional. -.-

14. Christ America is worst than i thought

15. I'd like non us evidence of the repression of muslims in China and Russia

16. Haha, I love the intro. Keeping real af

17. EXCELLENT conversation.

18. Blaming Russia is Hippocratic.

19. Compete pass, and here's why:
    We have limited time.
    Priority must be given to more important issues.
    Highlighting the irrationality of the escalating tension with Russia creating the real threat of a third world war between nuclear powers HAS TO take precedence over Russia's internal corruption on an American/International media outlet.
    You'd be wrong to ignore RussiaGate and its implications, and focus on Russia's internal corruption – which is arguably less than, or on par with, American corruption.

20. Just lost all respect for Marc Steiner. He should quit TRNN.

21. Marc Steiner doesn’t have a clue of what he’s talking about…not a clue

22. The Russian government has repeatedly condemned Far Right Neo-Nazi movements at the UN and the US always votes Against the Resolution. The Russian people lost 27 million people fighting Nazi Fascists! Putin doesn’t support far right fascist groups!

23. America has no clue about Russia, Russian society, Russian culture, etc.

24. The Soviet Union just before the collapse was like a country run by the Department of Motor Vehicles.

25. Paul is right, Marc…not so much.

26. We have to be against the negative act(s) of all regardless of political leaning, religion, race, etcetera. If we followed that rule we would then realize that there are thieves, killers, racists, pedophiles, misogynists, etcetera on all sides. WAKE UP ALREADY!!!

27. It is time to say Good bye to Marc Steiner! Sorry! Have liked him on a lot of issues. He shows the symptoms of TDS, too biased anyway. No place to talk to Paul Jay.

28. As a non-US citizen I watch TRNN because I hate US foreign policy like nothing else. I really wished the US would crash economically because I see no other way, that will change this destructive attitude and behaviour towards other countries. And even worse, they destroyed almost half of the Middle East but don't take refugees. The US administrations (Dems and Reps are the same crap) belong to the worst worldwide because they have the financial capacity to do much better. I don't care who meddles in elections because everybody does it, especially US and Israel. To point the finger at Russia is hipocrisy at its best. … If Russia was as destructive as the US I would hate them as well but they aren't. Not now and hopefully not in the future.

29. Putin isn't a saint. He is wrong on global warming. He does allow too much religious persecution in Russia. Many think he's too culturally conservative, as in not sufficiently liberal about identity politics. Personally, I'm concentrated on economic democracy, not identity. He's not anti-war, per se. He is, though, "dragged" into wars. (He hasn't started any.)

    However, where is the hard evidence that Putin is so autocratic or so capitalistically corrupt? I hear people making the claims all the time but never see real proof of it. Sure, one can emphatically say that Putin is not openly advocating democratic socialism, but he has admitted that Christianity at its heart (and he claims to believe the Orthodox theology) is socialist, which it is. The autocratic charge comes mostly from the US MSM, which routinely completely ignores that "protesters" violate the laws there and that were those protesters to simply ask, they'd be granted permits to march down the streets. Do I like it that people can't spontaneously gather and protest? It depends. Sometimes not blocking traffic and such is more important. So, Russia tries to strike a balance. I can't fault them for that, only where they draw the lines and when.

    Now, Paul said send in more letters. How about coming down here in the peanut gallery and addressing issues raised in the comment section of YouTube? You are reading the comments, right? If not, you're being aloof.

30. Steiner is toeing the propagandist's line. Pathetic.

31. If anything, Russiagate is strengthening Trump, partially because claim after claim after claim after claim of Russiagate is called a smoking gun, then days or weeks later is quietly retracted for being wildly exaggerated to the point of being fantasy, innuendo, guilt by association, or outright fabricated. Some small parts it is based on are real, but the structure is like a styrofoam cutout full of holes. Trump is horrible, he should be in jail for his multitudes of actual crimes, but Russiagate isn't something he'll be gotten on at this point after all the misinformation discredited it even if some part of it turns out to be not just real but prosecution worthy instead of more smoke-and-mirrors.

32. Paul is Canadian, and there is contempt for America. Perhaps that's why he is unable to understand why so many Americans are alarmed about Russia. If the Russians assisted in putting that orange menace in office, I don't want to hear about their plight. I just don't give a damn. Trump has put the whole world in peril. If the Russia scandal will get him out of office, well, that's all I care about. I with Team Steiner on this.

33. I've been watching hours of political videos close to daily for well over a decade now and I've NEVER seen, even in the comments, people from the left saying that Russia has a kind or gentle government or that it's oligarchs are good people. The only place that narrative seems to come from is people defaming people on the left, repeating it again and again and again until people internalize it even though it's nonsense, and those who have internalized that defamation. That at least one of the hosts here has bought into that narrative is sad.

34. In my opinion the coverage has been fair and balanced. Aaron Mate did well in debunking people like Luke Harding and Michael Isikoff and the TRNN staff have engaged in honest debate.

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