Marc Steiner talks to three thinkers who signed a petition pushing for activists to beat Trump, then battle Biden.

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20 thoughts on “Left organizers map out a struggle for Election Day and beyond.”
  1. The REAL problem is Joe can't win a rigged election; no way, and Dems have NO effective defense. Zero. So vote all you want; you still get Trump. There is a House Resolution at HonestyParty (0rg) that cures this nightmare, but it only works if AOC publishes it and says "We will pass this early next year." and Joe supports her. And if your county election authority implements open source VoteTool (0rg) blockchain voting Joe could easily win, but YOU won't spend even 3 minutes promoting either solution and Dems have NO other solution and that is the REAL situation today and Trump will, not maybe, really win again. That's how rigged elections really work. Duh!

  2. The issue of the day is not about individual candidates, but about the advancing power of the ruling elite. We are erroneously accepting the choices provided by the very criminal elites who have created this crisis! Our only vote is to bring this system to a halt!

    The reason we are doomed is precisely because the liberal wing has willingly enabled and even joined the right against anyone left of them! Biden is Trump with a polite demeanor. The ruling elites will rob the treasury. The police will be deployed against the people. Big oil will destroy homes and ecosystems at a more rapid pace. The police and military will enforce the settler colonial agenda! This is going to happen regardless of who wins, so this is what the left needs to plan for no matter who wins. Mass civil disobedience and disruption of the economy needs to happen in either case.

    Your all are nuts! The MILITARY IS INFILTRATED with white supremacists. This is where they get their training to lead the armed white militias!! They joined the military so they could train to kill. We've seen them after Hurricane Katrina, deployed in New Orleans! They joined the military to take revenge on Muslims after 911. They were given funding and support by democrats both at home and abroad!

    Ultimately we have to understand that settler colonialism creates fascism. Fascism legitimizes its violence in support of imperialist expansionism! These violent forces have been created and supported by both the liberal and right wings of the ruling class to advance the settler colonial agenda. We missy organize permanently to flight this anti-human, anti-life movement of the international ruling classes!

  3. As usual, the left has no one to vote for in this election. What's even worse though is the fact that the far right, by which I mean genuine brown-shirt like fascists, do.

  4. What manipulators ! Always chopping off what our President is saying to thwart & distort the truth of what he really said to suit your own twisted narrative. The gig is up ! Reading these comments say it all.
    We are awake !
    🇺🇸TRUMP20/20🇺🇸

  5. This clip was pretty infuriating. I took a closer look at the list of signatories on this letter. First, I was like, "Who are all these people?" I only recognized Noam Chomsky's name. I looked over their profiles and they are a mix of mostly academics, authors, and famous activists – and as a group they are mostly in the 40 and over crowd. Yet the movements on the ground are made up almost entirely of working class young people, who they spend their time talking down to. I laughed out loud when she said it was, "Easy to vote." Anyway I don't know what movement they think they are leading, but they sound pretty out of touch. I really don't care what anyone thinks of my vote.

  6. It's fucking wild to see Marc Steiner's first guest advocate lesser evil voting as a way of beating Trump and comparing it to World War II given that Hitler rose to power after the Social Democrats in Germany backed Hindenburg in the 1932 election as the "lesser evil" to Hitler and Hindenburg immediately turned around and appointed Hitler as chancellor. Lesser evil voting is literally how Hitler rose to power.

    And if you believe that Trump is equivalent to Hitler, then it's already for electoral politics. Voting has never and will never remove a fascist from power.

  7. Let's not get too focused on Trump, or so called Trumpism. Fortunately Trump is a weak populist who couldn't become leader for life even though the ground has been prepared via taking over state and local legislatures and propaganda. This process has played out through the Republican party ove the past 70 years! The real issue is shining the light on the road to authoritarianism that we are currently on and getting off of it. We have to identify and callout the oligarchs supporting this political corruption and require the Congress to take steps back to democracy for the people. If people don't realize this and get active, we will lose our democracy.

  8. A democracy like ours is not just the vote! The most important part is to stay active and tell your elected reps what you think of their actions and they will have consequences next election. Apparantly we need better civics lessons.

  9. So sad to be so wrong in the understanding of history, starting with the causes of WWII, which was not due just to some fascists being in power, but a more complex geopolitical situation that starting with the colonial wars of 1870's. It is also crazy to ignore Biden's own words that condemned ANTIFA as a terrorist group! Damn, the left bourgeois people like to rewrite history in order to clean your moral slate. Yet, Trump is a logical product of policies from the likes of Biden. And while you can (and should) get rid of Trump, not providing a true alternative will only postpone an ever more horrific figure, a true Mussolini or Franco.

  10. those supporter are dangerous, I'm not going anywhere near it! I'll help myself and vote for one of the minor party candidates.

  11. This is bizarre – a program with three panelists and a moderator all saying the same thing. I usually like Mark Steiner and The Real New Network, but a program like this is not worth my time.

  12. Arrogant and privileged speaks to the three of you that can apparently still afford to wait for Universal Healthcare, Green New Deal, and legitimate Judges.

    Be productive, build guillotines instead of talking as nauseum.

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