Gerald Horne and Kamau Franklin discuss the Mueller Report, Russia Gate and whether alleged Russian interference in the US elections is actually significant

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30 thoughts on “Mueller Report: A Battle Over Maintaining ‘Imperial Hegemony’  (Pt 1/2)”
  1. Everything is working out the way they planned it
    The collusion if you want to call it that , it was out in the open (Israel)
    nothing is hidden anymore, just that the public is so stupid they don’t know what is the truth and what is false anymore
    even if this crooks get caught on Video doing the crimes , they just say fake news folks or it was taking out of context
    I boggles the mind the stupidity of the American sheeple.

  2. One relevant aspect: the battle between the fractions within the ruling class of the crumbling empire: the one that wants to contain Russia (and needs a pretext for another arm's race) and the fraction that wants to contain China economically (good luck with that !). – And how THAT played a role for making up the Russia, Russia narrative (versus Trump starting a trade war with China, kind of)

  3. npr: We tracked a fake news creator to the suburbs – here is what we found (spoiler: a Democrat, with a background in political science doing "social" experiments – I highly recommend reading the article form 2016.) – in my view that explains some of the online activity (incl. the 50,000 USD spent of Facebook before the elections, and the less than 5,000 on google ads – spent by people with ties to Russia).

    This was not the GRU, these were people trying to make easy money with clickbait. (Of course in total more than that was spent – but the testimony was about RUSSIAN spending – which is not the same as spending by the Russian government).

    It just so happens that the crowd that likes Trump and despises Hillary Clinton are easy prey for the "wild" stories – so it was easy to make money while serving them nonsense. The stories and memes were crafted to suit their tribalism and bias. (And the right wingers are not into fact checking not even on a very basic level).

    The liberal crowd does more fact-checking – well not enough, they detect some quite obvious nonsense.

    But as "Russia, Russia" proves the tribalism makes the "liberals" eat up the propaganda as well – the propaganda just has to be a little more polished (and MSM is not even that sophisticated, it has become easier to compare their messages and fact check them).

    The "liberal" crowd are deceived as well but with help of the "respectabel" media and the spook agencies.

  4. Give it up TRNN. You're flogging a dead horse. A horse that has been dead for close to 3 years. I'm speaking to Paul Jay and Greg Wilpert specifically (others are also involved). You are rapidly losing credibility. There never was any EVIDENCE for collusion. Likewise for Russian hacking of DNC servers. The alleged Internet Research … (whatever), that Russian company advertising campaign has been long shown to be a miniscule spend that was done after the elections. Just give it up, or I'll have to treat you with the contempt I show towards Rachel Maddow and the rest of the MSM liars. Please and thanks.

  5. The paid social media work on facebook and google was negligible: ads, paid for from RUSSIANS, not necessarily from the government – actually I think these were for-profit clickbait schemes *. the amounts were ridiculously low (FB 100k, half of it AFTER the elections, and google ads were less than 5,000 USD.

    so that leaves the "trolls" in comment sections and sockuppet accounts – now that is HARD to prove. – I mean I am sure the Russian have them, like the U.S. the Germans, the Israelis or the Clinton campaign (Correct The Record) have them. I came recently across some from China (a Chinese video praising their infrastructure or about the Uygurs, they were falling over themselves in defending the government in the crackdown on Muslims. That was a tad too enthusiastic to be plausible).

     Styling that as "election meddling" is childish ! – the CIA and Israel do much more to skew elections and daily political work (see Al Jazeera videos The Lobby – in the UK.

    Remember spying on Angela Merkel. Or the Five Eyes mission to infiltrate ALL French parties for the presidential elections. AGENTS OF NEW ZEALAND got the orders. And naturally the NZ agents (or from the other 5 eye countries) had OTHER orders than the U.S. agents.

  6. Perpetuating the lie that the Russian government hacker the DNC server as if it's an indisputable fact. There's no evidence for it.

  7. I spoke too soon … none of these guys are intelligent – 1) they think the DNC was hacked and info passed to wikileaks by Russia; and 2) they think a troll farm that had impact what so ever is a vehicle of the Russian state.

    No wonder "the real news" got rid of Aaron Mate…..

  8. Real News Network Russiagate coverage has zero credibility without Aaron Matè. Every video/interview you post bout Russiagate without Aaron Matè, Real News loses credibility more and more….

  9. Very sad that America has come to this. Trump is pathetic, a symbol of America's bluster around the world. It does not work anymore. Even more sadly, it will take the American public a long time to accept this. The British have not accepted their collapse yet.

  10. That's it you did it again…….i shut you MF off 7 years ago and said i'll never come back and you had to do it again……..No russian hacked into the DNC and that troll farm's influence is zero …..I had more influence than Russia. You SOB's are fake news like the rest. Oh how deep the deep state goes.

  11. The missing word is "appears". Mueler says it appears Russians hacked the DNC servers. No evidence. Otherwise he wouldn't have qualified his statement.

  12. Traditional huh?! Looks like it was written by an intern. But what should we expect from the same person that lied us into the Iraq war?!

  13. At last you guys at Real News apply objective journalism rarther than speculative analysis about the vast unknown that is the potential Trump conspiracy.

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