The Chris Hedges Report: Dystopia, octopus intelligence, and what makes us human

1. Humans are truly despicable

2. I think having a direct attachment to your kids is what makes humans so selfish and ultimately destructive. Unfortunately, I think if they were to live long enough they would become like us and there's not enough room for one horrible species on earth.

3. And they're very tasty; not monstors. I'm SCUBA, played with octopi; they're cool. I'll still eat 'em, though.

4. The most profound exploration of sci fi themes and empathy I have ever heard. Wonderful stuff.

5. It's fascinating when you consider that the brain, in the dark, interprets all sensory imput through electrical impulses. By extension, nothing around us need be "real" and it's probably not, at least in the way we think about "real" things. We are not acually seeing or feeling anything. It's all an illusion. It makes sense that if the brain works by electricity that everything else is just something creating those electrical impulses.

6. I love much about Islamic societies. That is no lie. But I bow to no demiurge. I REVERE AWE…THAT IS TO KNOW GOD.~I'd be a Sufi.

   I loved the detail about the bird house in the mosque in Istanbul. I dream of visiting OUR WHITE MUSLIM BROTHERS in the CAUCASUS. Their traditions and music are the PUREST I have witnessed. And there is no "woke" in Chechnya, Turkiye or Dagestan.

7. Enjoyed this. Highly recommend, we must see beyond ourselves and think collectively as a species.

8. The underlying language is computer language and mathematics.

9. ❤

10. 🐙🐙🐙 rule!!!!!

11. "Consider the Octopus"

    Chris Hedges could name a report "Peanut Butter and Jelly" and I would still click it in a heartbeat 😂

12. I think a lot of folks lack empathy due to the Bible. I am no biblical scholar but doesn’t the Bible give the impression that we are No 1 and everything else is for our taking 😔🌎☀️💙

13. I think theyre eyes are scary. Are they trying to scare me/

14. A species of octopus has recently been discovered that not on;y doesn't die after mating, but also lives in colonies close together:+

    Much of the astonishing novelty of the larger Pacific striped octopus comes from its reproductive life. For instance, while most octopuses are cannibalistic, and have to exercise extreme caution while mating, these octopuses mate with their ventral sides touching, pressing their beaks and suckers together in an intimate embrace. (Nobody gets eaten.) And while most female octopuses die shortly after laying their first clutch of eggs, mothers in this species can mate and gestate many times throughout their lives.

    The LPSO is unusually social as well, apparently content to live in close proximity with a few dozen of its kind, but we still have much to learn about its behavior and activities.

15. I recommend the stop motion animated film Isle of Dogs to anyone a fan of this episode – and I can't wait to get his book, read it, and recommend it 💯

16. 53ya when I was 19 yo I took a job as a stable hand. I lived on the farm. I bought a horse there. She and I were able to telepathically communicate. When asked she told me in response to my question to her of how she viewed humans that all humans were stupid except for me . I asked her why. She thought that. She said because I was the only one who could hear and talk w/ her. I never told anyone of her view of us until much later in life…
    Totally true event.

17. After overcoming our mutual distrust in this book does any hot tentacle action ensue?

18. If the male octopus weren't eaten would they ever come out of the catatonic state? Can food be brought to the female to keep them alive?

19. Adrian Tschykovski (sp?) also explored octopus intellect in his Children of Time series.

20. I like DFW reference.

21. Wow… Interesting…

22. I'm glad they're people like Chris still breathing I just wish younger people had more confidence and could challenge the pervading climate of dystopia. Claim back their youth by becoming more ethical like Chris. I have an empathy with animals because they are not vain and needy of attention 24 7 now that's self sufficiency init? Enough to satisfy any capitalist lol. Not that animals are political but their ethics are sound. They don't screw you over for a woman or your home or your pay cheque? Animal rights are still in infancy unfortunately but we could do more to help them to acquire some privacy and perhaps a bit of moral equality. Rock on decent folk for we are the guardians of civility and freedom of ethics. No, I don't feel guilty about being an empath or respecting others. We are animals who have the capacity to articulate ethics and advance understanding of ourselves for making this world a better place for these animals.

23. I ordered the book just now. Another article which should be read is Grace Versus Dystopia by Eileen Crist (2020) in which she mentions My Octopus Teacher. We should recognize other sentient beings as our equals. I can remember just a few years ago Hoda Kotb mentioning on the Today Show about someone eating live octopus as if this was just another food choice–that was part of a meeting between two prospective love interests! Would you eat live humans? live dogs? live chickens? and smile about it? She did. But it doesn't stop at strict sentience either. We cannot obliterate/disregard 96% of life on earth which is not sentient as we are. We are destroying entire primal forests with all their niches, streams beauty, pouring glyphosate onto the gaping wounds of clearcutting. This is beyond major tragedy. I am on board with sentience as Gary Francione puts it–100%. But to stubbornly & consistently exclude the forests, trees, ecosystems & everyone else is downright insane. How can you know, see what we are doing to the forests & remain so indifferent? We are killing & destroying life on earth.

24. President Trump is destroying all big pharma satanists CEOs that are satanists destroying we the ppl! It's not doom and gloom. Our future is VERY BRIGHT!

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