The pervasiveness of trauma in American society is intimately linked to the ubiquity of sexual violence in our culture, and ultimately, the politics that buttresses this reality. In the second installment of a two-part discussion, acclaimed psychiatrist Dr. Judith Herman returns to The Chris Hedges Report for a discussion on the political implications revealed by her medical expertise: the need to confront the violence of our present system by reconstructing society itself.

Dr. Judith Lewis Herman is a psychiatrist who studies trauma and developed the diagnosis for Complex PTSD. She is the author of several books, including her most recent, Truth and Repair: How Trauma Survivors Envision Justice.

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45 thoughts on “Why psychiatrists say we have to rebuild society | The Chris Hedges Report”
  1. We the People must be FINANCIALLY compensated for the disastrous economic consequences of our mis-leaders' perpetual warmongering. We don't need psychiatrists to state the obvious – we demand substantial financial compensation.
    Paul G

  2. I agree with this hypothesis, however, I see two significant problems to tackle first. 1) The US population does not accept psychiatry or psychology as a path to mental health. Although many folks are turning away from religion, they still shun psychology for improving their lives. Many still choose Christianity. After having been raised in a fundamental Christian family, I discovered prayer did not improve my life and subsequently left the church — perhaps Christianity can help children allay their dread and fears, and there may be a place for the church to offer hope to those who are unable to work toward self improvement. Healthier friends of mine were not raised with Christianity. I turned to psychology in my early 20s. 2.) Another significant issue is that as human beings we all have rights. However, the internet seems to address everyone as if we are all the same. Unfortunately, we are not. Some folks are more stable than others, some are smarter than others, etc. Yet, we are are addressed as the same.Our differences is the reality. Even levels of abuses vary. Somehow, these realities must be addressed so that appropriate learning can be implemented to save time and money. These are the hard realities of society that must be addressed. Admittedly, LIFE IS NOT FAIR. Yet, we must do better.

  3. Your take on the Catholic Church seemed more like propaganda than a fair assessment. With over a billion Catholics, there have been abusers, but many Catholics (including priests and nuns) make daily sacrifices to assist others. As a child abuse survivor placed in a nun-run orphanage, I saw a mix of good and unsuitable nuns. Despite the negative aspects, these nuns played a role in significantly improving my life.

  4. As a child sexual abuse victim who dissociated and relapsed massively with my CPTSD during the court case this is the first time I've ever heard anyone acknowledge the trauma of court and how none of it was about punishment or money for me. I just wanted acknowledgement and the truth. He got not guilty and I'm still trying to rebuild myself. I wasn't strong enough to cope with the court case and I'll never forgive myself for that. There is no justice which means no matter how much I try I'll never regain myself. The moral injury it caused and the beliefs I held about truth and justice all my life were ripped from my being. We need women like this woman to teach barristers, judges and criminal systems all over the world 😢😭

  5. 21:15 I spontaneously forgave my abusive mother when she finally came to genuine contrition and apologized. All I ever wanted from her was that she loved me.

  6. IT IS NO MEASURE OF HEALTH TO BE WELL-ADJUSTED TO A PROFOUNDLY SICK SOCIETY —— J. KRISHNAMURTI

  7. Such a meaningful, important , discussion about the long and continued secrets in our society and culture. Thank you both.

  8. Serious question: How could we enact a Nordic model when there are no social safety nets to protect those who do sex as labor. Often prostitution is a exchange of last resort, and as such I don’t see how making that proposition more difficult and dangerous for either party to the transaction helps. It just sounds like a way to keep a prostitution black market alive to evade punitive measures.

    Wouldn’t the first recommendation be maybe to try and end poverty? Or at the very least mandate robust social services for people engaged in sex as a form of labor, otherwise I don’t see the Nordic model having much success in a neoliberal political economy in an advanced state of dismantled social welfare.

  9. I do not want to live in a designer world created by utopian zealots. I do not want a technocratic benign dictatorship. But this is all the "expert authorities" answer to whatever problems they use to fear monger us into submission.

  10. Get rid of subversive communist ideology. The great leveling is under way with society leveled, and the technocrats and commies at the top of the destruction.

  11. Except that psychiatrists have historically been some of the worst human right violators, and continue today to serve the goals of power and control. Their job is to keep the traumatized and marginalized down on behalf of the ruling class. Psychiatry needs to change first.

  12. @The Real News Network We're still waiting for Chris to acknowledge, just once, women's predation—something admitted even by Scientific American in publishing Dr. Lara Stemple's research in 2017, and by Hanna Rosin, founder of Slate XX, in 2014.

  13. Chris – if you read this comment you should have Micha Frazer-Carol on to speak about her book Mad World. I just finished it and it's incredible

  14. These issues will become increasingly politicized as people realize she's largely right. However, the generalization and mischaracterization of survivors as "out for blood" is fuel for the private interests who are trying to restructure justice into a formula that's run inside a black box.

    By ignoring survivors that want to be left alone, in peace or want accountability or atonement over "revenge," credibility is wrongly given to doomsayers who drive the mainstream narratives in a direction that assures the biggest returns on their "social impact investments." They may try to overhaul justice unilaterally and in a technocratic, global-corporatist, pseudo-democratic-socialist type of way, offering some self-fulfilled prophecy involving super bloodthirsty, vengeful populations as their so-called reasoning for an ends of judicial restructuring that was looking everywhere and anywhere for its means.

  15. Psychologists are actually part of the problem and have contributed heavily to the mass psychosis affecting western society.

  16. I would just like to say what a great service Chris Hedges does by bringing forward points of view that are not popular, disturbing, speak truth against power, and most of all, reflect a broad humanity.

  17. Great points articulated about forgiveness. I can vouch for society's insult to trauma survivors with . . . get over it; move on, forgive, be happy instead. We hear it from the families, church, therapists, courts, education systems, law enforcement, many institutions. It's said directly and indirectly to the victim. So, if you're not a trauma survivor, don't be so smug, calloused and self-righteous about another person's deep physical and emotional pain, suffering. Injuries that are about an abuser doing all he or she can to break the heart, mind and soul of the victim. The survivor experience is brutal and life altering. The healing process is slow, if ever.

  18. Best case scenario 300 million dead or disabled from the suicide shot, could be as high as 3 billion, but that's "Tangential" right Chris

  19. And really, how absurd this 'just out for the money stereotype is' in any case. Such a statement could only be made by someone who's never tried to overcome serious trauma – or someone who's never had no money. Without resources a person has no access to professional support to heal. Money is choice. Money is healing. Money is energy to overcome, to outsource services that in some way may help a person forge a life beyond victimhood. Trauma changes you – usually in ways you don't want to be changed. And much of recovery is grieving the person you left behind – and having money means you can pay someone to listen to you while you grieve, to witness, validate and accept the battle you are in to reclaim a sense of comfort in the world again.

  20. Traumas been a part of human existence forever, we're better off in every way except culturally, which is everything.
    People dont have close communities or families, we believe in nothing meaningful, we're closed off and cold people.

  21. The abused child caries with them , the wisdom gained threw recovery. This wisdom plays a large roll in future abuse's coming from the ignorant leader's , supervisors , authority figures and general society . This abuse goes unnoticed by the eyes that look apon it . What victim hood could do to the vicim is to give them a magnetized view of the direct connections between the smallest of sins and the most brutal of them. Using the brutal to pacify the very thing's leading up to it , as they clear the path for the brutal too occur. A victim learns how the answer to the biggest problems are found in the solutions to the smallest one's.

  22. In the 60s and 70s society started a shift called the sexual revolution. The results have been mixed…
    Despite much crowing to the opposite, America still has sexual freedom metrics similar to a country like South Korea or Japan. Which is to say, it's still a Puritan country.
    Part of the problem is the political culture around issues of sex is completely toxic, which is why myths still circulate freely in this domain – lack of sensible criticism.
    The psychology profession has a lot to answer for here, because this is exactly the field that should be a watchdog for a dysfunctional society in this regard.

  23. People have been victimized and abused for most of civilizational history. Therapy culture only instigates more narcissism and helplessness. Read widely the multitude of historical and cultural responses to the trauma inherent in the human condition, from a variety of cultures and time periods. This will get you out of your self-obsession and will allow you to see your situation more clearly. It will toughen you up to deal with a harsh world.

  24. "People cannot feel safe alone." That's a downright lie. I only feel safe when I am alone. The only way I've been able to deal with loss has been being alone to think through it and grieve. I think all society's problems come from the inability to truly be alone these days. Too many people asserting their desires and beliefs on others. Individuality and true liberty is disposed of for the sake of simply belonging to a group. "Safety in numbers",
    they say. Tell that to the Jews. Your "social support" is nothing more than reaffiration of subjugation to a society that couldn't (or wouldn't) even protect the victim to begin with. I'd rather be by myself.

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