Will Harvard’s Affirmative Action Case be a Referendum on Race Conscious College Admissions?

1. They want to decouple their education from China and mitigate the theft of intellectual property by Chinese. If America continues having its Intellectual property stolen it will become a third world economy.

2. When i heard someone say "People of color", i knew they are involve in identity politics.

3. This is potentially massive. If Harvard loses, then the entire system of racial preferences in admissions may collapse. If a merit based system were to emerge, the number of Asians and Whites admitted to elite universities would increase while the number of Hispanics and Blacks would decrease. With dwindling constituencies, the diversity bureaucracy that has been bloating universities and driving up tuition would have a hard time justifying its existence. It would be a massive win for capable people of all races and for society overall, and a massive loss for the grievance industry.

4. Cant wait for the white nationalist groups to start using the term "racially conscious" for their racism…

5. Whatever your stance is on affirmative action, you have to agree that rating one race of applicants consistently lower on personality, courage, likeability is wrong and insulting. To do so in the name of fairness and diversity is a shame. I love diversity on campus as much as anyone. But what Harvard admissions is doing is wrong. These two Asian women defending these practices should be ashamed.

6. Here's more on the "model minority myth": "The real reason that Asians are “succeeding far more than African-Americans and even more than white Americans” is that “their families are intact and education is paramount,” he said.

   This claim has been with us since at least the 1960s, when it served as a popular rejoinder to the challenges issued by the civil rights movement. Many newspapers printed flattering portraits of Asian Americans to cast skepticism on the people marching for economic and social justice.

   “At a time when it is being proposed that hundreds of billions be spent to uplift the Negroes and other minorities, the nation’s 300,000 Chinese-Americans are moving ahead on their own,” claimed a 1966 story in the U.S. News and World Report, which noted their “strict discipline” and “traditional virtues.”

   “The widespread assumption is that Asian Americans came to the United States very disadvantaged, and they wound up advantaged through extraordinary investments in their children’s education,” says Brown University economist Nathaniel Hilger.

   But that's not what really happened, he says.

   Hilger recently used old census records to trace the fortunes of whites, blacks and Asians who were born in California during the early- to mid-20th century. He found that educational gains had little to do with how Asian Americans managed to close the wage gap with whites by the 1970s.

   Instead, his research suggests that society simply became less racist toward Asians."
   https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/19/the-real-secret-to-asian-american-success-was-not-education/?utm_term=.b07c751d89ae

   "Although multi-racial coalitions between different immigrant groups had long played an important part in campaigns for civil rights on the West Coast, it wasn’t until the 1960s and 1970s that diverse communities with different histories began to self-consciously unite as “Asian Americans.”

   The Asian American movement that promoted this new identity– which initially united Japanese, Chinese, and Filipino Americans, and then expanded to include Koreans, Southeast and South Asians, and Pacific Islanders– was driven largely by student activists radicalized by anti-Vietnam war and black power movements."
   http://depts.washington.edu/civilr/aa_intro.htm

   "This position ignores that affirmative action is one of a long series of socially transformative changes won by black activists to open doors for all nonwhite Americans — and it was paid for in blood and tears, life and limb."
   https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/07/opinions/affirmative-action-yang/index.html

7. Affirmative action is systemic racism.

8. Jim Crow / Black Codes / Lynch Laws / Segregation and on and on and STILL Asians will step on the throats of Black people on the dubious basis of their demands for "equality".

   These ladies speaking are all just dancing around the subject with a flurry of words that don't stick.

9. Affirmative action hurts minorities by undermining their achievements.

10. Admissions should be based on grades not race. Affirmative action is racist in of itself. You can not be for affirmative action and be against racism the two are not mutually compatible but rather oxymoron.

11. Affirmative action was for of descendants American Slavery not for this concept of Diversity!
    Lyndon Johnson explained this in a speech at Howard University!
    Diversity piggy backed the law and ignoring the facts.
    Even a white women is considered a minority under this concept.
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12. to classify people by "race" is already racist! affirmative action should not be "race"-based, it should be based on socioeconomic status (don't worry, it could be done in a way that would not lower the number of admitted blacks and hispanics). the term "race", as it is commonly used today, is practically a racist slur in and of itself.

13. Tbh I understand where the colleges come from don't the college filled with nothing but Asians.

    Sorry guys I'm on the fence with this one.

    Not buying what your selling come to NYC look at how exclusive there communities are.

    Yet to see an Asian American group fight for anything but Asians

14. There are only a certain number of admissions for all students into Harvard each year. What about legacy admissions which make up ONE THIRD of all admissions? The vast majority of these legacy admissions are white, so that in itself sets Harvard up to not mirror the demographics of this country. Legacy admissions should be abolished.

15. Ah, the primary issue with college education today is the cost of college, and race of the student’s parents is much less important than parental wealth; this is fundamentally linked to the student debt crisis since students whose parents can pay for their college are not saddled with debt for decades. Also, there is a significant history of racist and sexist discrimination in college admissions in the United States, affecting all groups. Conclusion: use weighted socioeconomic status as a factor in college admissions, and build more universities to service the needs of public eduction.

16. Affirmative action was never meant for Asian. These people come to fight against a law that was implemented to right America’s wrongs. They did none of the struggling or free labor in America. They never had to go thru Jim Crow or redlining

17. The worst kind of racism, is when other minority groups are OK with discrimination against another as long as it enhances their interests. The only beneficiaries from such conflict is the white majority, as seen in Harvard admissions they benefit more than even blacks thanks to this racist ruling

18. As a European, all I can say is, Americans are all racists. ESPECIALLY the ones supposedly fighting against racism.
    Quota's based on skin color are fucking insane.

19. Harvard? Who really gets to go to Harvard? Skin color isn't the only discrimination going on there. 🤔

20. Doesn't she have any sense of self consciousness? She calls herself ''Doctor''?!

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